Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 02:44:38 +0100 (CET) From: Sysadmin Lists <sysadmin.lists@mailfence.com> To: Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org> Cc: Freebsd Virtualization <freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Bhyve CD-ROM Message-ID: <131686623.289839.1638323078165@ichabod.co-bxl> In-Reply-To: <C45BE3C3-8B62-4B28-8D16-E6731B0CA9A7@iitbombay.org> References: <1786593170.587714.1638135091567@ichabod.co-bxl> <CA%2B1FSiiarPVt55iZXQZ8-cidvp_iHBkomQFsg8gORVYrq2=xJQ@mail.gmail.com> <711266519.635448.1638165807735@ichabod.co-bxl> <3e5cfc26e781421ba0244d5c78c3a4d4@beckhoff.com> <878258613.80307.1638218553852@ichabod.co-bxl> <CA%2B1FSii6yL0HbpyMLNq3q4PybnJS0s6uaDO8f6jh25tAHP8=NQ@mail.gmail.com> <724392928.94209.1638225100654@ichabod.co-bxl> <1b7acfc7b88a46bfbbb9f4b6444f3c2d@beckhoff.com> <951253309.258922.1638305495927@ichabod.co-bxl> <1BF2D752-2F3F-497B-8932-3A0BFAF1BD9B@iitbombay.org> <1402880728.268687.1638310457578@ichabod.co-bxl> <C45BE3C3-8B62-4B28-8D16-E6731B0CA9A7@iitbombay.org>
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Those are all very good suggestions, and things I already implement into my upgrade strategy. I like being in the second wave of upgraders. Turns out I missed that wave awhile back this time, though. D: zfs datasets and snapshots make the life of a sysadmin so easy, it almost feels like cheating. > ---------------------------------------- > From: Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org> > Sent: Tue Nov 30 23:39:34 CET 2021 > To: Sysadmin Lists <sysadmin.lists@mailfence.com> > Cc: Freebsd Virtualization <freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: Bhyve CD-ROM > > > On Nov 30, 2021, at 2:14 PM, Sysadmin Lists <sysadmin.lists@mailfence.com> wrote: > > > > Yeah, all you cool kids are running 13.0-* already while I'm waiting for 12.3-RELEASE to get out of beta. :P > > I have to decide if fixing Bhyve by jumping to 13.0-RELEASE is worth the time required to fix whatever else breaks from the upgrade. > > This "cool kid" is perhaps older than you:-) > > I did jump to 13.0-RELEASE as soon as possible! In my experience > the best time to upgrade is when everyone else is also facing the > same issues (or do so a little later) so that any problems you run > into, you can get help or hints on at least what else to try. The > longer you wait, the harder it gets. A lot of breakage gets fixed > right away but some "breakage" is due to some design change and > then the user has to do things slightly differently to deal with > it. This latter pain is not going to go away and a few months > later people are going to forget what they did. > > You do need to make sure you can revert to the old version if > things you care about are not fixed soon enough. I think a better > setup is to keep user directories on a separate partition but > everything else (except var) on the same partition and use zfs > snapshotting to be able to easily revert. -- Sent with https://mailfence.com Secure and private email
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