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Date:      Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:05:36 +0400 (MSD)
From:      Alexey Pialkin <dragonfa@prcom.rcom.spb.su>
To:        mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith)
Cc:        thz@Lennartz-Electronic.DE, mike@smith.net.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD in less than 4MB RAM
Message-ID:  <199807091205.QAA05076@prcom.rcom.spb.su>
In-Reply-To: <199807071828.LAA01144@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Jul 7, 98 11:28:12 am"

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> > > > For those which say "put in more memory/disk": This doesn't help if you
> > > > have to run out of batteries w/ solar-panels on very remote localities,
> > > > only access by radio-telemetry. You need very low power equipment there.
> > > > So the question is not $ but watts.
> > > 
> > > In the same timeframe, memory power consumption has gone down by more 
> > > than an order of maginitude, while cost has fallen even further.
> > > 
> > > Sorry, but the argument still holds good.  8)
> > 
> > Sorry, but to run with 3 watts from dynamic memory is not possible,
> > do you know prices of SRAM? Also effordable harddisks are
> > much lower now in consumption, but not that low. So booting from
> > eprom or floppy is a must.
> 
> No insult intended, but your design obviously sucks.  I am working right
> now with a PC104 board not specifically designed for low-power
> operation.  It manages to put an NX586-based micro, all the standard PC
> peripherals, 8M of RAM, 8M of flash, etc. into a sub-3W power budget.
> 
> Like I said, this is a design that's not even trying.  Look at the 
> power budget that eg. the Palm Pilot works with.

PalmPilot have 1/2 mb ram and to run linux on it you should got a 8mb ram/2 mb flash upgrade... So only a kernel this a size about 300kb would be a real threat for PalmOS ;)

Alexey Pialkin

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