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Date:      Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:26:29 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Jesper Wallin <z3l3zt@phucking.kicks-ass.org>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Is PortSentry really safe to use?
Message-ID:  <20020315162629.D84361@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <2332.213.112.58.232.1016226432.squirrel@phucking.kicks-ass.org>; from z3l3zt@phucking.kicks-ass.org on Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 10:07:12PM %2B0100
References:  <2332.213.112.58.232.1016226432.squirrel@phucking.kicks-ass.org>

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On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 10:07:12PM +0100, Jesper Wallin wrote:
> Hey..
>=20
> Lets say I want to hide all my services by changing the standard ports on
> all server and run PortSentry.. I used to run my system like that before =
but
> yesterday a friend of mine was talking about a little security issue..
>=20
> Lets say we run a system like that on www.blah.com, what happens if I run=
 a
> traceroute on it and fake a portscan from his default gateway? Sure he can
> add the default gateway to the portsentry.ignore file but then I just take
> the box before that and the one before that and the... and so on..
>=20
> Isn't PortSentry more like a problem then a help then? I'm not sure if all
> fo this work but I know it's possible to fake portscans with softwares li=
ke
> "rain" and other "custom packets" programs.

Yes, it's dangerous and you need to be absolutely sure you know what
you're doing (e.g. what can be spoofed and what cannot) before you
start configuring active responses to traffic.

Kris

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