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Date:      Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:57:10 +0100 (CET)
From:      Oliver Fromme <olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>
To:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: PATCH for testing
Message-ID:  <199911172057.VAA06032@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>

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Julian Elischer wrote in list.freebsd-current:
 > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Oliver Fromme wrote:
 > > Adam Wight wrote in list.freebsd-current:
 > >  > x  I like the -e option when I'm root and trying to debug things.  I
 > >  > x  think that peter's fix seems to be ideal.  You can find out about your
 > >  > x  own uid, but no one else's unless you are root.
 > >  > 
 > >  > I agree, but anything that runs suid has to be excluded as well.
 > > 
 > > FWIW, I'd be against removing or restricting -e at all.
 > > 
 > > Programs that put sensitive data into environment variables
 > > (or expect the user to do that) are just _broken_.  Removing
 > > or restricting the -e option encourages such brokenness.
 > > 
 > > Just my 0.02 Euro.
 > 
 > since the environment is supposed to be part of the address space
 > it is ssupposed to be private..

But it is not, and programmers should be aware of it.

On all platforms on which I regularly work (*BSD, Solaris,
DEC UNIX a.k.a Tru64) the environments of all processes are
public.

Regards
   Oliver

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