Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 05:35:40 +0200 From: "Sulev-Madis Silber (ketas)" <madis555@hot.ee> To: Arseny Nasokin <eirnym@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything Message-ID: <54F3DA8C.9010602@hot.ee> In-Reply-To: <CAO8GK0oFwQXb=wKNX%2Bp7fHguK-hk=EXr%2Bbrx1SWvkdnv4z3efQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <54F31510.7050607@hot.ee> <54F34B6E.2040809@astrodoggroup.com> <CAG=rPVfcB1Fy_8mHq-t5Ay07yrzuSGthQ0ZcGzvp0XG9gSSzkg@mail.gmail.com> <54F35F29.4000603@astrodoggroup.com> <54F36431.30506@freebsd.org> <CAO8GK0oFwQXb=wKNX%2Bp7fHguK-hk=EXr%2Bbrx1SWvkdnv4z3efQ@mail.gmail.com>
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How about we allow JSON input on those utils too... Then we get into full-blown hell faster. Hmm... I would like to talk with system using JSON. JSON would be in utils that are or at least function similarly to rm, mv, ls, find, mount, zpool, zfs, geom, mdconfig, tar, df, netstat, ifconfig... (or maybe even talk JSON directly to the kernel?!). How to have all that goodness, while at same time not having extra library dependency? Without that library the system wouldn't work at all (and there is no fallback mode for "manual operation"). Fragile library that requires you to have worse-than-bad-Perl-looking (funnily I write lot of Perl myself) parts everywhere in your code. And requires huge set of tests to verify correct operation. Hope that you never see things like this: > df Shared object "libxo.so.0" not found, required by "df" Or this: > netstat -nhbdWi Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Idrop Ibytes Opkts Oerrs Obytes Coll Drop smc0 %6s 1.5K <Link#1> 52:54:00:12:34:56 %8s 4.4M %5s 0 %5s 0 %10s 290M %8s 3.3M %5s 0 %10s 756M %5s 0 %5s 11 smc0 - fe80::5054:ff fe80::5054:ff:fe1 %8s 8.7K - - %10s 592K %8s 17K - %10s 1.0M - - smc0 - 2001:ad0:91f: 2001:ad0:91f:0:50 %8s 4.4M - - %10s 225M %8s 3.3M - %10s 709M - - smc0 - 10.0.0.0/24 10.0.0.48 %8s 4.0K - - %10s 504K %8s 3.2K - %10s 233K - - lo0 %6s 16K <Link#2> %8s 272 %5s 0 %5s 0 %10s 24K %8s 272 %5s 0 %10s 24K %5s 0 %5s 0 lo0 - ::1/128 ::1 %8s 136 - - %10s 16K %8s 136 - %10s 16K - - lo0 - fe80::1%lo0/6 fe80::1%lo0 %8s 0 - - %10s 0 %8s 7 - %10s 963 - - lo0 - 127.0.0.0/8 127.0.0.1 %8s 136 - - %10s 8.6K %8s 136 - %10s 8.6K - - Or, at least you only see it (occasionally) in CURRENT. ( And, all current libxo issues seem to be fixed, for now... )
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