Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:09:49 -0700 From: Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com> To: Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org> Cc: Charlie ROOT <root@hammerfell.dhs.org>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Congrats! Message-ID: <39931A1D.2F937B9E@urx.com> References: <B14AF62CDA08D4118B8C00508B44A0B5012ED5@server02.belenus.com> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0008101415320.8189-100000@hammerfell.dhs.org> <20000810133555.A34348@tao.thought.org>
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Gary Kline wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 02:21:06PM -0600, Charlie ROOT wrote: > > > > [I hope no one takes this message as spam.] > > > > With all the complaints and hardships people come across when upgrading > > (particularly across the 3.x -> 4.x boundary), I'm sure it sometimes looks > > like no one is ever satisfied, and the whole mess deserves to be sent to > > /dev/null. > > > > I, however, would like to congratulate the FreeBSD (and, by proxy, the > > contributing code from all the *BSDs and even Linux, in parts) team for > > their hard work. The upgrade worked for me. Yes, it required some > > tweaking, part of which resulted from me not knowing something, or > > thinking I knew it better than the people who write UPDATING, but it > > _WORKED_. That in itself is amazing. Approximately two hundred megabytes > > of source code compiled without a hitch, and upgraded a system in > > situ. AMAZING. > > > > The published help posted to -questions helped me move from > 3.2 to 4.0 last may... on my research and experimental platform, > tho. Not *here*. Here, I am still at 3.2. > > My question for this list is: will it make more sense to > upgrade this 3.2 system to 3.5 before I make the Great Leap? > > With 3.2 -> 3.5 I won't be holding my breath and quaking in > my boots.... I don't see any point to it. I also like 4.1 much better than 3.x. I'm one of the people that tried the cvsup route to upgrade to 4.0R and failed; however, a couple of weeks later someone else had the same problem I did and, at that point, we understood what I had done wrong. They corrected what they were doing and it worked. By then, Warner had upgraded /usr/src/UPDATING to make it more clear about creating a new kernel config file from GENERIC and to use either GENERIC or your edited version of it in the make build(install)kernel sequence. MYKERNEL had to be an existing file. DUH! :) The big shock is how much longer a buildworld takes. It is close to 2x a make of 3.x. If you have access to a decent network, download the iso and you can do a binary upgrade. It has far less trouble. Sooner or later, you have to do a build world and the question is when are you going to do it. The only tricky problem is proceeding through some of the modules. You are really bootstraping your way up and can have problems. Herr Engelschall on 3 August had a pretty complete write up on the problems they had upgrading a number of systems from 3.5S to 4.1S. Check the stable archive for "[PROCEDURE] Successful 3.5-S to 4.1-S upgrade", which I don't think is limited to 3.5. Did you solve your subscription problem. One of the recent problems was a badly placed email filter. You don't know it is badly placed until later but that was the problem. The confirmation messages were being forwarded to the bit-bucket. I could submit his text and would get a message from the majordomo that a request was being sent to their email address. I could also send their text minus the email address and subscribe but they couldn't. That made the problem a local one to their end but finding it was a little bit more work. Kent > > Anybody?? > > gary > > -- > Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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