Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 21:13:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@MIT.EDU> To: Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Experiences with FreeBSD 9.0-BETA2 Message-ID: <alpine.GSO.1.10.1109262111090.882@multics.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <CACqU3MV3oiUT3yUbiYTC7buKmaRvcL_MAhgnpJsu0m6a%2BGQcGQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <201109260053.SAA25795@lariat.net> <201109260927.02540.jhb@freebsd.org> <alpine.GSO.1.10.1109261359100.882@multics.mit.edu> <201109262035.OAA17199@lariat.net> <CACqU3MUZ_ez-KMGVR33Aqz31i9cE%2BW7ANtvhqy3D%2BiPfroFpxA@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.GSO.1.10.1109261941050.882@multics.mit.edu> <CACqU3MV3oiUT3yUbiYTC7buKmaRvcL_MAhgnpJsu0m6a%2BGQcGQ@mail.gmail.com>
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This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---559023410-60201605-1317086020=:882 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Mon, 26 Sep 2011, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > Hi, > >> > The storage world is not limited to spinning hardware. Take a 512MB > CF, put it in a soekris box, and you got an embedded system capable of > doing a whole bunch of stuff. > > Now, FreeBSD may no longer want to target such "niche" usage. Sure we do! See nanobsd.sh and=20 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/index.html But the point is, if you are running an embedded system, it is almost=20 certainly in your best interest to tune it a bit, to reduce=20 disk/power/memory usage -- the default install should not feel too=20 constrained by the limits of embedded systems. > >> If you have hardware of that nature, you are almost certainly going to w= ant >> to customize other aspects of the system (and if it's an under-provision= ed >> system, are you really going to be doing this customization in-place?), = at >> which point removing the extra stuff is minimal extra work. =A0If a deve= loper >> has to ask a user to do something (e.g. compile) in order to debug >> something, there is a huge hit in the response rate; having the symbols >> available in the general case can be helpful. >> > Then why don't you provide symbols for the whole system, including > binaries and libraries ? At least be consistent in your argument... > > And, yes, I have patches for that. Not really my argument; chance and POLA, really. But that's not my call to make. (Are the patches public/in a PR?) -Ben ---559023410-60201605-1317086020=:882--
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