Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:22:33 +0200 From: Johan van Selst <johans@stack.nl> To: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!! Message-ID: <20050517192232.GA20572@taz.gletsjer.net> In-Reply-To: <20050517160425.tnbe78svmsg4owgs@netchild.homeip.net> References: <20050516203932.0A38316A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> <42890874.4030600@t-hosting.hu> <4289E0E9.3060506@pacific.net.sg> <20050517160425.tnbe78svmsg4owgs@netchild.homeip.net>
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--azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alexander Leidinger wrote: > >They are not allone. China also does it and the 'official' Germany,=20 > >but it is not commonly used. > In Germany it's > family_name, first_name > or > first_name family_name Both forms appear in Dutch as well (although the first is pretty formal). However, Dutch names frequently include 'interjections' (tussenvoegsels) as well - something like "van" (v.), "de", "van der" (v/d), etc. - which is part of the family name, but is not relevant when sorting by last name. You see this as "d'" or "de" in other languages as well. Paperwork in the Netherlands usually offers three fields for a name: first name(s), interjection, family name - filling in forms in other languages is sometimes confusing. So my name might be listed as Johan van Selst (Johan v. Selst) or Selst, Johan van Other variations may appear as well, but are not very common. You may address me as 'Johan', 'Johan van Selst' or even 'Mr. van Selst' - but _not_ (never ever) as 'Johan van'. Thank you. Hopefully this helps clarifying things, Greetings, JohanS P.S. IIRC the Flemish, who also speak Dutch, tend to prefer another ordering, but that's their choice ;) P.P.S. Please let's not discuss the family names of married people. --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCikR4aOElK32lxTsRAo6zAJ4x3lSpqXMgPzQvwHnM2Gmr9X69ZACgnEyJ YkCfxW698mM9tVLMVxhSFvg= =sJlX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU--
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