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Date:      Mon, 8 Apr 2002 18:47:30 +1000 (EST)
From:      Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, <cvs-all@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sbin/newfs mkfs.c newfs.c newfs.h 
Message-ID:  <20020408183609.D6311-100000@gamplex.bde.org>
In-Reply-To: <74463.1018253035@critter.freebsd.dk>

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On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

> In message <20020408175001.J6180-100000@gamplex.bde.org>, Bruce Evans writes:
> >I think this doesn't really belong in the label.  It should be possible
> >to put a filesystem on disk-like device without putting something
> >foreign to the filesystem (a label) either inside or outside the
> >filesystem, or by subdividing the devices.  This is implemented for
> >msdosfs (newfs_msdos -r reserved).
>
> That is exactly what the new API does:  You ask your disk like
> device if it has any magic areas, and it tells you.

newfs'able devices shouldn't have to know this any more than memory or
files (since they might be a file)...

> Obviously, the prudent admin will try to prevent such overlaps
> by not putting filesystems on the first track/cylinder or whatever
> it takes to stay clear, but the code should DTRT even if he doesn't
> or for technical reasons can't avoid it (small physical media).

... And the ioctls on the really-disk-like devices should be used for this
if and only if the device supports them.

Bruce


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