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Date:      Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:39:22 -0700
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
To:        sos@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG, kjc@csl.sony.co.jp
Subject:   Re: Networking strategy for -current
Message-ID:  <3536F91A.446B9B3D@whistle.com>
References:  <199804170633.IAA03123@sos.freebsd.dk>

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S?ren Schmidt wrote:
> 
> In reply to Julian Elischer who wrote:
> > One of the things that has been apparent is that FreeBSD is being
> > used more and more as a firewall and router for people with
> > special networking requirements. The networking code however
> > is getting old, and needs work in various places. many people are
> > also using it for experimentation.
> 
> Julian, to put it very simple, you need to get DEVFS and possibly
> softupdates finished before you get to commit any new halfbaked
> solutions to -current.
> 
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Søren Schmidt               (sos@FreeBSD.org)               FreeBSD Core Team
>                 Even more code to hack -- will it ever end
> ..

Well gee thanks for the reminder..
here's what I recently said to poul on the topic:

>
>Oh I am.. but softupdates is on hold till kirk gets back
>and doing bandwidth management is my present assigned task.
>
>I could do it in any way I want but I'd rather do it in a way that
>benefits freeBSD generally and the easiest way of doing that is
>to use the altq stuff that was released rather than doing proprietary
>stuff.
>
>DEVFS is my personal hat.
>bandwidth is my whistle hat while softupdates is on hold.


I hope to get together with Mike smith in the next week to try 
knock out some of the devfs nits.

As far as I'm concerned it's working. (I use it in production 
every day.)
But thre are a few cosmetic things that need to be done.

Have you tried it? I haven't seen a crash out of it since december.

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