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Date:      Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:51:17 -0500
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Cc:        Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com>, Rob Farmer <rfarmer@predatorlabs.net>
Subject:   Re: /sbin/reboot
Message-ID:  <201012100851.17425.jhb@freebsd.org>
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On Friday, December 10, 2010 2:27:58 am Adam Vande More wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
> 
> > When you have administered multi-user systems you learn to do things
> > gracefully unless you actually need to do things abbruptly.
> >
> 
> Yes I of course I use shutdown -r on a multi-user system in the rare times I
> deal with one.  However that's not much of a reason not to have reboot in
> the operator group, especially if you're like me in thinking the vast
> majority of installs are single user type systems.  As the end of the day,
> it's pretty trivial to me one way or the other but I do think the current
> way is a POLA violation.

No, it is purposeful to force operator-induced shutdowns to send the warning
message.  That is actually useful aside from the fact that shutdown -r is
more graceful than reboot as several people have already told you.

-- 
John Baldwin



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