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Date:      Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:03:00 -0400
From:      Steve Kudlak <chromexa@ovis.net>
To:        Annelise Anderson <andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu>
Cc:        Doug Young <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>, ML Duke <mlduke@concentric.net>, "SILVER, MICHAEL A" <MSILVER@scana.com>, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, 'Keith Davey' <kdavey@gus33.homeip.net>, 'David Johnson' <djohnson@acuson.com>
Subject:   Re: Newbie packages and more(Long Message Please Excuse)
Message-ID:  <3DAAF8C4.96DF4BDD@ovis.net>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10210140334540.6379-100000@andrsn.stanford.edu>

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Annelise Anderson wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Doug Young wrote:
>
> >
> > FWIW, I'd like to see the VNC application included as a standard package in
> > FreeBSD .... its infinitely
> > more usable than commercial Windows equivalents like pcAnywhere / Terminal
> > Services / etc & has the
> > advantage of being usable in virtually all operating systems.
> >
> vnc (vncserver and vncviewer) are not part of the base install,
> but they've been in the ports collection for a long time; I use
> them.
>
> And the documentation is quite good, from the web site.
>
>         Annelise
>
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Thanks for the info. There is no newsgroup for "rusty BSDers":)
Most of my experience is some years old. So I am not really a
"newbie" but someone who wants to polish up their skills. Since I
dislike Windows * which one is often by circumstance forced to
use in work environments. Almost all the printers and Graphic Arts
folks I know love MACs which are "BSD under the Hood" but
have this curious mix of "Open" and closed. Legend has it Apple
doesn't really want one to really get to the # prompt and start doing
things. I know one must be careful at the # prompt...but is running
a cron or at job such a bad thing.

But in general I like the *nix world much better than the * WIndows
world. I just want to get people in the real world read printers(the humans
with those offset press things..to whom the words 4-color and CMY mean
something:) and Graphic Artists to know the systems they use and be
aware there is a choice. I guess that makes me a *nix evangelist.
Like any good evangelist I feel oppressed by superior forces I must
struggle against.:) Said partially in jest.

I am also interested in security issues. So I probably will have to poke
around Trusted BSD for that. So when people propose things like
this thing will let you use your computer from anywhere I want to
look into and make sure it is reasonably secure.

Anyway I hope this is not way off list. If someone can point me
to a better list then I will post there. Now here in *BSD* land mostly
I lurk but sometimes I come out of the shadows and say something.
Because I am not a regular I may not be aware of the finepoints as
to where someone supposedly should say something.

Have Fun,
Sends Steve



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