Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2021 12:21:26 +0200 From: Andrea Brancatelli <abrancatelli@schema31.it> To: Daniel Morante <daniel@morante.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deprecating base system ftpd? Message-ID: <a9b92bd87c76ef20ead77f762428b86c@schema31.it> In-Reply-To: <a787101c-a6bd-1f57-6eba-906a8631b2c9@morante.net> References: <CAPyFy2AbP2X339zbemZ9Y8edjNKdyygnR9mH48Q78nxwDtOBAg@mail.gmail.com> <a787101c-a6bd-1f57-6eba-906a8631b2c9@morante.net>
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On 2021-04-05 02:05, Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable wrote: > My vote is for no. > > Reasoning is simple... at what point does it stop? By continuously moving stuff from base to ports, FreeBSD slowly becomes just a Kernel. 😉 I strongly agree with this consideration. --- Andrea Brancatelli From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Tue Apr 6 10:22:35 2021 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F36D5C981E for <freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org>; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 10:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:c2c:26d8::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FF3Vy2Rzyz4Rj0; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 10:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (eg.sd.rdtc.ru [IPv6:2a03:3100:c:13:0:0:0:5]) by hz.grosbein.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 136AMRGF023683 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 6 Apr 2021 10:22:28 GMT (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: asomers@freebsd.org Received: from [10.58.0.10] (dadvw [10.58.0.10]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 136AMON3039338 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 6 Apr 2021 17:22:24 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: Deprecating base system ftpd? To: Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org> References: <CAPyFy2AbP2X339zbemZ9Y8edjNKdyygnR9mH48Q78nxwDtOBAg@mail.gmail.com> <0070fa8d-1e9c-89c7-f0a8-40aace3030d8@quip.cz> <a353d9fa-c5fc-41c5-99ab-ca810784dd68@www.fastmail.com> <606A920C.8030502@grosbein.net> <CAOtMX2hzcbj-9KJE5fpJF+yHwrbHd_Jqy2OChchjm1h7iOukrQ@mail.gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> From: Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net> Message-ID: <10f7015c-6dc8-1d1c-02b5-d9de5f5b8e68@grosbein.net> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 17:22:18 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <CAOtMX2hzcbj-9KJE5fpJF+yHwrbHd_Jqy2OChchjm1h7iOukrQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOCAL_FROM, NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_FAIL,SPF_HELO_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 0.0 SPF_FAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (fail) * [SPF failed: Please see http://www.openspf.org/Why?s=mfrom; id=eugen%40grosbein.net; ip=2a03%3A3100%3Ac%3A13%3A%3A5; r=hz.grosbein.net] * 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains * -0.0 NICE_REPLY_A Looks like a legit reply (A) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on hz.grosbein.net X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FF3Vy2Rzyz4Rj0 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=fail (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of eugen@grosbein.net does not designate 2a01:4f8:c2c:26d8::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=eugen@grosbein.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.53 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_FAIL(1.00)[-all]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[eugen]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a01:4f8:c2c:26d8::2:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[grosbein.net]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a01:4f8:c2c:26d8::2:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.43)[-0.428]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/29, country:DE]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2021 10:22:35 -0000 05.04.2021 19:57, Alan Somers write: > I wouldn't say that anything is "very good" when it has no test suite whatsoever. Many years of employment of ftpd in different environments (sometimes under heavy load) means something, too. Maybe even more than synthetic tests.
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