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Date:      Fri, 6 Jul 2012 09:10:34 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        toolchain@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: gcc46 header search path
Message-ID:  <508B8B4E-DF5E-412B-BD2B-86F21EBF4C8C@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <4FF6DB51.40904@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <4FF60A9E.5070503@FreeBSD.org> <4FF6DB51.40904@FreeBSD.org>

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Top posting, because I'm lame...

I think it shouldn't be there.  It is non-standard behavior both in the gcc world and in the freebsd world.  It does save a little on makefiles on some ports, but most ports already grok things are in /usr/local or opt/local and cope.

Warner

On Jul 6, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Andriy Gapon wrote:

> 
> Inviting wider audience to the discussion.
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 00:43:58 +0300
> From: Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org>
> Subject: Re: gcc46 header search path
> 
> on 05/07/2012 17:15 Andriy Gapon said the following:
>> 
>> Gerald,
>> 
>> while thinking what to reply in our other conversation I ran into another issue
>> with gcc46:
>> 
>> $ echo "" | cpp46 -v
>> [trim]
>> #include "..." search starts here:
>> #include <...> search starts here:
>> /usr/local/lib/gcc46/gcc/x86_64-portbld-freebsd10.0/4.6.3/include
>> /usr/local/include
>> /usr/local/lib/gcc46/gcc/x86_64-portbld-freebsd10.0/4.6.3/include-fixed
>> /usr/include
>> End of search list.
>> [trim]
>> 
>> I don't think that /usr/local/include should automagically appear in the search
>> list.  Base gcc doesn't have it and there doesn't seem to be a good reason to
>> include "arbitrary" non-system directory into the default search path.
>> 
> 
> On the other hand the above seems to match the default upstream behavior as
> described here: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/cpp/Search-Path.html
> It's understandable that such a difference between the base gcc compiler and gcc
> compilers from ports introduces subtle issues to ports.
> 
> I am now confused and torn as to which behavior should be preferable.
> On one hand it's easier to patch the port gcc-s to match the base one.
> On the other hand the default gcc behavior would save many lines in port
> makefiles that explicitly add -I ${LOCALBASE}/include or some such to CFLAGS.
> buildworld and buildkernel (and etc) could be spared from any interference from
> /usr/local by using -nostdinc and explicitly setting all necessary include paths.
> 
> Adding more people to conversation in hope that it could become fruitful.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Andriy Gapon
> 
> 
> 
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