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Date:      Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:09:06 +0200
From:      Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua>
To:        Kai Gallasch <gallasch@free.de>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 8.0RC2 amd64 - kernel panic running make buildworld
Message-ID:  <4AFAB772.2050303@icyb.net.ua>
In-Reply-To: <20091110184821.4f58a0bf@orwell.free.de>
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on 10/11/2009 19:48 Kai Gallasch said the following:
> Am Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:05:23 +0200
> schrieb Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua>:
> 
>> on 10/11/2009 17:22 gary.jennejohn@freenet.de said the following:
>>> Well, OK, I may have misinterpreted what you wrote or have chosen
>>> bad wording myself to convey the same message.  Nonetheless it
>>> looks like a hardware problem to me.
>> [Trying to make up for my previous mistake.]
>>
>> The symptom certainly looks like misbehaving hardware, but other
>> information from the reports seems to suggest that it is possible
>> that this misbehavior might be caused by software misconfiguring the
>> hardware.
> 
> Hi.
> 
> This thread was started by me. In the meantime I filed a PR:
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=140338 
>  
>> I would re-test vm.pmap.pg_ps_enabled=0 just to be sure that it was
>> correctly teh first time.
> 
> I toggled vm.pmap.pg_ps_enabled three times between reboots and the
> result is always the same. superpages enabled: reboot, superpages not
> enabled: server stable

Yes, I saw your report.
I was following on the other report where the symptoms are very similar but
pg_ps_enabled does not seem to help.

>> I would try to see how 8.0-RC1 kernel behaves and in general try to
>> find last working, first non-working version.
> 8.0RC1, 8.0BETA4 already showed the same behaviour
> 
>> It would be useful to know any (if any) non-default loader.conf and
>> rc.conf settings or kernel config (if not GENERIC).
> 
> loader.conf untouched, rc.conf had just settings for networking active
> when testing. In the end I enabled some other stuff to have it ready for
> 8.0 RELEASE, *after* I found out that disabling superpages helped
> against the crashes.
> 
> Ah yes. I also ran memtest86 on the server for about half a day - no
> problems.
> 
> But read for yourself in the PR.
> 
> I don't rule out that this behaviour with vm.pmap.pg_ps_enabled maybe
> hardware related, but why then is the server running stable
> with RELENG_7 and memtest and server diagnostics don't report any
> problem? 

What I meant is that sometimes software  can incorrectly configure hardware.  Or
configure it in a way that was thoroughly tested by manufacturer.  I didn't mean
to say that your hardware has any defect (but perhaps it does, hardware errata
don't exist for nothing).

-- 
Andriy Gapon



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