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Date:      Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:53:49 -0700
From:      "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing@gmail.com>
To:        "Alexandre Vieira" <nullpt@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?
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That was after I left Netapp for a spell (and later came back once the
vacation ran out) and it was supported before then by _something_
linux.

That was fall of 03.

Not trying to debate..just it'll still be 08 before it's likely to be
universally supported.


On 10/16/06, Alexandre Vieira <nullpt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 10/16/06, Jeff Mohler <speedtoys.racing@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Linux has iSCSI...which hands Fbsd a real beating in the server space.
> >
> > I work on projects at more customers than I can keep track of that
> > -have- to use Linux in the middle of Fbsd farms just because of the
> > amazing lack of iscsi support.
> >
> > Linux has been doing iscsi since what..2002 or so?  Maybe 2003?
> >
> > C;mon..yes, I know a brave soul is starting work on it now, but how
> > did the Fbsd effort let this lie for so long?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/15/06, Girish Venkatachalam < girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 12:35:13AM -0400, Andy Harrison wrote:
> > > > On 10/15/06, William Tracy < afishionado@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD
> > > >can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back.
> > >
> > > Ah well, you have to experience it. No amount of convincing or
> intellectual gymnastics will help you.
> > >
> > > Know that in the software ecosystem there is a place for everything.
> > >
> > > There are situations in which you have to use linux and even Windoze.
> > >
> > > But things are so vibrant that more and more Windoze apps are available
> in linux and FreeBSD and also in NetBSD and OpenBSD.
> > >
> > > Personally for me linux has very good support for a wide range of TV
> cards, remote controls and other rare hardware.
> > >
> > > BSDs also have support but somewhat limited.
> > >
> > > FreeBSD gives you CCD,GEOM,GDBE, netgraph and various other features
> hard to find in other OSes. Some equivalents exist but not as good.
> > >
> > > OpenBSD has very good IPsec , pf , BGP and other networking stuff. pf is
> also available on FreeBSD but I doubt if it is as well integrated and
> feature rich as OpenBSD.
> > >
> > > Linux has a lousy file system and is somewhat unstable and will throw
> surprises if you stress it or use it in unexpected ways.
> > >
> > > Whereas BSDs have very very good stability. For instance FreeBSD will
> give roughly 20 to 30% better overall performance compared to Linux. This is
> subjective and dependent on various factors but this has been my experience.
> > >
> > > In terms of packages FreeBSD I think has the largest number since it can
> emulate linux binaries too.
> > >
> > > I can go on but I suggest you try things with an open mind.
> > >
> > > If you like it, stick to it , else go back.
> > >
> > > Nobody is forcing you.
> > >
> > > But remember, give it enough time and be open.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Girish
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> Hello,
>
> As far as I can tell Linux only had mainstream/official iscsi support in
> 2.6.12 (2005-06).
>
>
>
> --
> Alexandre Vieira - nullpt@gmail.com
>



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