Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:46:10 -0700 From: Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: Lawrence Sica <lomifeh@earthlink.net>, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>, Ceri Davies <setantae@submonkey.net>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <200208272146.g7RLkF195761@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org>
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Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> writes: > Dave Hayes wrote: >> The only zen you need is the zen you think about. > A strange sentiment, Sentiments are only strange in reference to a standard of normalcy. To which standard do you refer? > for someone who quotes Ch'an Master Yangqui, Who? > does not attribute the quote, I apologize to your ego for not doing a complete search on what I had to say, lest my ego be embarassed that someone else said it before I did. =) Did you want to continue assuming that knowledge must be attributed to a source, or did you want to examine the knowledge itself? > and yet claims that there exists a ying/yang relationship between > communities and trolls. By the use of "claims", I see you mean to drag me into a logical argument about what is not logical. If you want to do this dance, I shall, but since I recognize it is ultimately futile and you have a chance of seeing this...can we not do this? ;) > The freedom to speak is not a guarantee of an audience, The freedom to speak is the freedom to speak. It implies or follows nothing about itself other than itself. It is something most every human has, regardless of those who wish to assert to the contrary. If the human has a brain, a mouth, and fingers...they are generally capable of speaking, writing, or typing. There is nothing you can really do about this. Most audiences generally presume that they are forced to listen; if you'll examine your mail reader closely you'll find that is not the case at all. =) > nor is life zero-sum, such that one must tolerate fools gladly in > order to walk the eightfold path. It is not possible to walk the eightfold path if you are carrying a fool in this manner. You will exhaust yourself. > It seems to me that trolls are people who believe in zero-sum > games being the norm, to the point that they believe that for > their advocated position to win, all other positions must lose. Can you not see that this is true of most of the community as well? ------ Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<< In a dream, Nasrudin saw himself being counted out coins. When there were nine silver pieces in his hand, the invisible donor stopped giving them. Nasrudin shouted, "I must have ten!" so loudly that he woke himself up. Finding all the money gone he closed his eyes again and said. "All right, then, give them back. I'll take the nine." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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