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Date:      Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:16:21 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
To:        David Murphy <drjolt@redbrick.dcu.ie>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Voxware is toast.  Get used to it.  (Re: Suggestions for improving newpcm performance?)
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At 2:10 PM +0000 2000/3/21, David Murphy wrote:

>  Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of commercial unix
>  OSes, Sun for example, and I use this example because I'm familiar
>  with them, put out an Early Access version of Solaris 8 some months
>  before formally releasing Solaris 8. Effectively, this is the same
>  timescale FreeBSD is going to run on, but the early access version is
>  labelled -RELEASE.

	We just got our official shrink-wrapped versions of Solaris 8 
from Sun.  Do you think we're actually going to be stupid enough to 
try to put this into production any time within the next few months?


	It's an x.0 release from Sun, and we're going to treat it just 
like we do with x.0 releases from *any* vendor.  We may play with it 
on our desktops, we may do some prototyping with it, etc....

	But we're not going to put it up in any kind of production until 
we're pretty convinced that it will work well and we have 
sufficiently tested it on internal non-production machines, and we 
feel reasonably confident that it will be reasonably reliable.

>  As opposed to what? People staying away from x.0-RELEASE in droves,
>  because they find out it's a beta, AFTER they've been confused by
>  the naming policy?

	Thing is, it's *not* a beta anymore.  It's more like a gamma 
version.  It's been through the beta (the period during feature 
freeze and then code freeze when we try to wrap up outstanding bugs 
without introducing any new ones), and it's been tested about as much 
during that period of time as it could be.

	The *only* way to proceed from here is to actually release the 
thing, let people start trying to use it, and then report bugs back. 
But we wouldn't be acting in good faith if we didn't at least warn 
people that it's not quite ready for use on production servers.

--
   These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy
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