Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:13:37 -0400 From: Gary Palmer <gpalmer@freebsd.org> To: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Cc: Joe Nosay <superbisquit@gmail.com>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net> Subject: Re: A proposal Message-ID: <20140329181337.GA17363@in-addr.com> In-Reply-To: <20140329131110.GA71345@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <CA%2BWntOvERMgdpQyY0te=e6su04fn6izdGt_etz2mSEEmD2WzNA@mail.gmail.com> <53365D6F.5020804@allanjude.com> <CA%2BWntOsh62fkJV8D%2B9-Hfeur-94KEGndD27uakgCoo3g9_4N2w@mail.gmail.com> <20140329055249.GA69809@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20140329092923.GS37436@e-new.0x20.net> <20140329131110.GA71345@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 06:11:10AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 10:29:23AM +0100, Lars Engels wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:52:49PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 01:46:15AM -0400, Joe Nosay wrote: > >>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Allan Jude <freebsd@allanjude.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 2014-03-29 01:22, Joe Nosay wrote: > >>>>> I have noticed that options VPS, VIMAGE, and MROUTING are not standard > >>>> for > >>>>> the kernel with a base install. Is there any way that these can be made a > >>>>> part of the normal kernel so that jail(s) would get the full benefit > >>>>> without a kernel recompile? > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> VIMAGE has some problems with PF. Martin Matu ska said at AsiaBSDCon > >>>> that he had a patch that solves the issue. > >>> > >>> Really, you say? That's good news. > >>> So, will those options soon be standard for a first time install? > >> > >> Certainly, hope not. I don't use any of options. > > > > So you use all the other devices and options of the GENERIC kernel? > > Of course, not. Not sure how you inferred such a thing. > > IMHO, GENERIC should contain only those devices and options > that are required to get FreeBSD booted on new hardware. > VIMAGE and MROUTING aren't needed, and can be configured by > the user after installation. As for VPS, AFAICT, there isn't > an option/device named VPS; at least 'find /sys/ -type f | xargs > grep VPS' wasn't too enlightening. Until freebsd-update deals with custom kernel configurations, people will want all the possible non-conflicting flags enabled in GENERIC, or the options made available as runtime loadable kernel modules. It's not an unreasonable request. Regards, Garyhome | help
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