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Date:      Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:31:45 +0100 (CET)
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMGY+ZU5JPy4bKEI=?=) <shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp>, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino <itojun@iijlab.net>, Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no>
Subject:   Re: IPv6 - when? which?
Message-ID:  <XFMail.981227153145.asmodai@wxs.nl>
In-Reply-To: <6701.914751730@zippy.cdrom.com>

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On 27-Dec-98 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

>>        commit logs provide a good way to track down when the crypto
>>        code crossed the border, and by who :-(
> 
> I think there are so many legal interpretations of this, many of them
> conflicting with one another, that it's best not to second guess this
> and just do what we do best, which is be engineers. :)
> 
>>      - how to redistribute IPsec part in the future?
>>      I don't want to see Jordan going to jail for redistributing IPsec :-P
> 
> Hey, I just package the bits, I don't really distribute them.  No
> problem for me! :-)
> 
> More seriously, if it comes down to it I'll ask WC to file for an
> export license.

Well, yer unfortunately hitting a very, very unfortunate topic =\

http://www.wassenaar.org - limits export of crypto bigger than 56/64 bits in
about 33 EU countries and some others (US-like export limitations).

If this goes through, then all the crypto mirrors are going to be in deep
problems when IPv6 is hitting the street in FreeBSD, in other words we cannot
mirror as efficiently anymore.

So getting WC an export license is not going to help with the mirroring. And a
large part of IPv6 is based on security/authentication for which the community
asks ad which gets thwarted by the government.

Please see http://www.freecrypto.org, or ask Eivind if yer Norwegian, or me if
Dutch about what to do.

Sorry for the intrusion, but unfortunately this is the lame (political) reality
in which governments think they know what's best for the populace even when they
know jack about the subject involved.

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Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven            Life is the only Pain 
asmodai(at)wxs.nl                              we endeavour...
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