Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:37:07 +0000 From: David Murphy <drjolt+freebsd-stable@redbrick.dcu.ie> To: Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be> Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Voxware is toast. Get used to it. (Re: Suggestions for improving newpcm performance?) Message-ID: <20000321163707.L5367@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> In-Reply-To: <v04220821b4fd4f825554@[195.238.1.121]>; from blk@skynet.be on Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 05:16:21PM %2B0100 References: <001a01bf91c1$7f62a4b0$0304020a@NENYA> <200003191838.KAA40955@rah.star-gate.com> <20000319220453.A65973@ipass.net> <005d01bf9221$4660ac60$0304020a@NENYA> <20000320153429.A1373@ipass.net> <v04220803b4fcf1e15773@[195.238.1.121]> <20000321121048.E49550@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> <v04220815b4fd1c95611c@[195.238.1.121]> <20000321141055.E5367@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> <v04220821b4fd4f825554@[195.238.1.121]>
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Quoting <v04220821b4fd4f825554@[195.238.1.121]> by Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>: > We just got our official shrink-wrapped versions of Solaris 8 from > Sun. Do you think we're actually going to be stupid enough to try > to put this into production any time within the next few months? > It's an x.0 release from Sun, and we're going to treat it just like > we do with x.0 releases from *any* vendor. We may play with it on > our desktops, we may do some prototyping with it, etc.... Right, and if you try to upgrade your Solaris 7 desktop, which, while not a production server, is a machine you personally need to do your job, to Solaris 8, and it fails, and you call Sun about it, and they tell you "Hey, what do you think you're doing? That's not ready for real use yet!". You wouldn't be too impressed, would you? That's basically the scenario I'm seeing with FreeBSD. > Thing is, it's *not* a beta anymore. It's more like a gamma > version. Call it -GAMMA then. Bascially, I'm saying I think it should be called something other than -RELEASE until the average user can install it, and upgrade to it from the prior version. > The *only* way to proceed from here is to actually release the > thing, let people start trying to use it, and then report bugs back. > But we wouldn't be acting in good faith if we didn't at least warn > people that it's not quite ready for use on production servers. IMHO the place for that warning is the release announcement and the release notes, and it wasn't in either last I looked. -- When asked if it is true that he uses his wheelchair as a weapon he will reply: "That's a malicious rumour. I'll run over anyone who repeats it." Stephen Hawking - [http://www.smh.com.au/news/0001/07/features/features1.html] David Murphy - For PGP public key, send mail with Subject: send-pgp-key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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