Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 14:22:47 -0700 From: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Sayetsky Anton <vsjcfm@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org>, "Hartmann, O." <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Why NOT using FreeBSD? Re: ports/169581: editors/libreoffice: Message-ID: <4FF4B427.1010808@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20120703183415.GB3379@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <CAFG2KC%2BsKDWDx1gK3r9gedT7ukmZ97EfE%2BW5zv9hO2XhGgWN7A@mail.gmail.com> <4FF2B457.9030505@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20120703183415.GB3379@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>
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On 07/03/2012 11:34, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 10:59:03AM +0200, Hartmann, O. wrote:
>> On 07/02/12 08:09, Sayetsky Anton wrote:
>>> I will test libreoffice build on 8.3-RELEASE today or tomorrow.
>>> I have both gstreamer and boost installed now.
>>>
>>
>>
>> We use FreeBSD 9.0STABLE and FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT (both amd64).
>>
>> devel/boost-lib gets reeled in now by editors/libreoffice by default, so
>> it doesn't need to be installed explicitely.
>>
>> I saw a patch flushed in yesterday, submitted by bapt@. This patch also
>> installs LLVM/CLANG from the ports - with ASSERTS deactivated.
>>
>> I have on both systems, FreeBSD 9 and 10, LLVM/CLANG 3.1 as the standard
>> backend compiler, I guess this version has the suspected ASSERTS activated.
>>
>> Why another LLVM port? We already have LLVM/CLANG in the base system (9
>> and 19). If the ASSERTS proble is the cause for breaks reported on the
>> list and elsewhere on the net, why isn't the maintainer still stuck on
>> the "old" version?
>>
>> I just managed it to install the prior version on broken systems and was
>> really lucky having LibreOffice working again. But the other day I was
>> bothered by the next non-working version and now I have lots of
>> notebooks remaining with NO LibreOffice on FBSD 9-STABLE.
>>
>> This is not what I expect from quality securing! It is simply a mess and
>> definitely another reason and point for the thread "Why NOT using FreeBSD".
>
> sure libreoffice is so easy to port...
>
> /me officially gives up with that libreoffice port, open for new volunteers
If you don't have time to work on the port, then don't, that's not a
problem. But throwing a hissy fit here doesn't help at all. It's a plain
fact that a working office suite is a basic requirement for most desktop
users. If _we_ can't provide that (note, not you, personally, we, as a
project), it's a valid reason for users to avoid FreeBSD for desktop use.
If we're ever going to make progress in this area we have to be willing
to examine and absorb facts; and then act accordingly.
Doug
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