Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 14:32:36 -0700 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Cc: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org>, George Neville-Neil <gnn@neville-neil.com>, "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: A proposal for code removal prior to FreeBSD 13 Message-ID: <CANCZdfqcyoFchbLOwz6NLJxQyPz8GMVkm-aGq3Yj7SVdFGuJcA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80965.1544993496@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <201812161645.wBGGj7qn092076@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <261A6437-3ECC-43FF-ADA2-EE430477BB92@lists.zabbadoz.net> <80965.1544993496@critter.freebsd.dk>
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On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 1:55 PM Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: > -------- > In message <261A6437-3ECC-43FF-ADA2-EE430477BB92@lists.zabbadoz.net>, > "Bjoern A > . Zeeb" writes: > > >> timed was removed outside of current procedure, and that should > >> be corrected ASAP, > > > >No, it should not. There is a stable branch, with shipping releases, > >and support until at least June 30, 2020, possibly longer. > This is a bit of a specious argument. While I agree we have time to correct any lack, arguing stable branch lifetimes in prior discussions hasn't been helpful to getting consensus. It's basically telling at someone rather than offering a useful arguement. In this case, we can trivially extract timed into a port and we'd be done. Since the remedy is easy, and this is current, we have the luxury of time needed for rational discourse. >The questions are: > >[...] > (e) Has anybody ever run timed(8) on FreeBSD in the first place ? > (f) What was wrong with them ? > They have. However, the numbers are low. This should not be in base. I'll extract into a github repo (since that has been trivial in the past and preserves history), but someone else will have to do the port. Again, this borders on an ad hominem attack, which history has shown to be not useful in reaching consensus. Warner >
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