Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:07:03 -0400 From: Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu> To: Konrad Heuer <kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extended / Replaced Utilities Message-ID: <v04011719b1ee4a334bbd@[128.113.24.47]> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980805085749.3708A-100000@gwdu60.gwdg.de>
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At 9:14 AM +0200 8/5/98, Konrad Heuer wrote: > Now I observe that for example 2.2.6-RELEASE comes with a drastically > (to my mind) changed ftp client. I read in the release notes the > 2.2.7-RELEASE has an ls command with many new options. Excuse me - but > now I seem to be irritated. Where does FreeBSD go? Will it leave the > traditional BSD line which seems to be strong argument for using FreeBSD? > > I'm interested in other people's opinion here. May be advocacy is not > the best newsgroup to discuss it but there seems to be some relationship. The Advocacy mailing list is meant as a place to discuss "what ways can we promote FreeBSD to new audiences". It is not meant in the usenet (newsgroup-naming) sense of "Let's put all the flame-wars here!". Adding features to 'ls' may make freebsd more useful to some people. As long as new features do not *break* the options that you are used to using, I don't see too much of a problem with it. I don't know what the old ftp client was like, but I do like the ftp client that I found with freebsd. As a relative newcomer to freebsd, that was one of the things where I thought "hey, that's cool" when I saw it. So the change you found so "drastic" is one of the things that promoted freebsd to *me*, as one sample individual. If you're determined to say that no unix command should be allowed to have any new options over time, then I would expect that you won't be able to advocate freebsd to anyone except the people who were using BSD ten years ago. To me, any operating system which will not evolve over time is bound to be a dead operating system. So, if you're asking the question "how do we promote freebsd to more users?", then the topic of new features is a good one. If you're just looking for a flame-fest between people who don't want any change vs people who are maybe too eager to change too much too fast, then this will be a very pointless exercise. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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