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Date:      Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:51:12 -0700
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
To:        "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Soft updates mount change (17 Jun)
Message-ID:  <20000628105111.Z275@fw.wintelcom.net>
In-Reply-To: <20000628104708.B29089@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:47:08AM -0700
References:  <200006272212.PAA36120@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> <20000628094841.D77839@skriver.dk> <xzphfadyh9o.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20000628091509.V275@fw.wintelcom.net> <xzpzoo5wz6l.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20000628102501.X275@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000628104708.B29089@dragon.nuxi.com>

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* David O'Brien <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG> [000628 10:47] wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:25:01AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> ..snip..
> > > > IMO there's nothing wrong with mount doing what tunefs does, setting
> > > > the softdep bit before actually mounting it, changing it while
> > > > mounted would not be supported.
> ..snip..
> > > If you use a filesystem marked for softupdates on a non-SU system, and
> > > have a crash, fsck will go nuts and spew gobs of "UNEXPECTED
> > > SOFTUPDATES INCONSISTENCY" messages.
> ..snip..
> > I'm not talking about anything particularly tricky here, it's just
> > tweaking the userland side of mount to possibly just spawn tunefs.
> 
> Are you saying you want to go to a mount option for softupdates, or are
> you just saying what could be done in the abstract?

I'm trying to explain how it can be done in a simple way without
compromising what we already do.  However actually implementing it
is somewhere very low on my TODO list right now. :)

-Alfred


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