Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 12:23:30 +0200 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deprecating base system ftpd? Message-ID: <9e38ef19-1ed7-9d83-4c25-ccd3b631c5fe@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <C5A36572-BB97-4E30-9DCA-4EAB4D41F7C5@lassitu.de> References: <CAPyFy2AbP2X339zbemZ9Y8edjNKdyygnR9mH48Q78nxwDtOBAg@mail.gmail.com> <6051E091-200B-4A7F-9A53-86652425BBB6@punkt.de> <C5A36572-BB97-4E30-9DCA-4EAB4D41F7C5@lassitu.de>
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On 06/04/2021 11:29, Stefan Bethke wrote: > Am 05.04.2021 um 21:01 schrieb Patrick M. Hausen <hausen@punkt.de>: >> >> But still even on "the Internet", FTP is the most used method for customers >> of static website hosting. You cannot teach these people what an SSH key is. >> Just my experience, but backed by a load of customer interactions over more >> than 20 years ... > > Strato did disable FTP access over a year ago, and instructed customers on how to use SSH-based access instead, so it's definitely possible, and people are moving towards more secure protocols, even when (non-technical) end users are affected. Working for small / average web hosting company - we disabled plaintext FTP over 15 years ago. All customers are able to use FTP client supporting FTPeS (FTP with explicit TLS). So it definitely is possible if there is a will or enough pressure on customers. On the other hand it does not matter to me if ftpd will be shipped in FreeBSD base for next 10 years. It is just a matter of maintaining it / man power for each release, testing etc. Miroslav Lachmanhelp
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