Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 18:33:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Wm Brian McCane <root@bmccane.uit.net> To: Burton Sampley <burton@bsampley.vip.best.com> Cc: David Nugent <davidn@labs.usn.blaze.net.au>, Gary Clark II <gclarkii@main.gbdata.com>, obiwan@zeppelin.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, bde@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading from 3.0-19970209-SNAP to -current Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970426180552.13488A-100000@bmccane.uit.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.970424231726.218A-100000@bsampley.vip.best.com>
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Just to add further fuel to the fire, I rebuilt this kernel with the
compiler from SNAP-970209, and sources I cvsup'd only minutes before.
FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Thu Apr 24 13:49:08 CDT 1997
/usr/src/sys/compile/MCCANE2
CPU: AMD Am5x86 Write-Back (486-class CPU)
Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x4f4 Stepping=4
Features=0x1<FPU>
Then I built the 2-3 LKM's I needed, and rebooted the machine. It all
came up beautifully. I then did a make world, which took 7:02:38 (I
guess I am not even IN the worldstone competition 8). My machine has not
rebooted since I did it to get the new versions of the executables from
the make world, only a couple of days I will admit but it has the following
configuration:
32Meg of memory (all sockets filled with 8Meg SIMMs)
PCI Bus
ISA Mach-32 card.
syscons UI.
SMC ethernet card
1 parallel
1 serial
1 Supra Express 28.8 PNP modem (defaults to com2)
3-IDE hard drives
1 floppy
The machine acts as my NFS, Samba and UNIX print server for my four other
computers in my office, with me rebooting them at random intervals to
switch to Windoze 95, Linux, or SCO unix, depending on my current project
work. The machine also runs my permanent internet connection to my ISP,
using pppd. My ISP reboots any connection which has been up for 5 hours,
or has been idle for 20 minutes, so I hear it redialing at fairly random
intervals (I am every ISPs nightmare ;). I also run apache on this
machine to serve my web pages, have ppp dialin capabilities to get
remote access to my network, AND use the machine to run XDM and control
my X windows on the other machines. So, should I worry or do I just
cast aspersions on all your theories. I think the most significant thing
here is that I am running both in and out bound ppp connections with the
ppp built in to the kernel.
brian
root@bmccane.uit.net
BTW> I know the machine is way under powered, but I run load averages of
about 0.20-0.30 most the time, so I can't convince myself to upgrade
the CPU yet.
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On Fri, 25 Apr 1997, Burton Sampley wrote:
> Well I hate to throw a 'monkey wrench' into the spoke of this problem, but
> I'm running 3.0-current (last CVSUP was Fri. 4/6 which includes the lite2
> merge) with a Western Digital 1.6 EIDE as master on the primary and a Sony
> 8X ATAPI slave and a Western Digital 3.1 EIDE as master on the secondary
> controller. I'm also running X w/ Accelerated X. I haven't had any
> reboots, other than the one's I've initiated with shutdown -r now (that's
> because fetchmail was acting strange). I've had uptime as high as 8 days
> before I rebooted. I'm not using NFS but I do have ppp on-demand running.
> I'll try killing it to see if my machine reboots by itself.
>
> I killed ppp and so far the system has not rebooted.
>
> FWIW, here's my setup:
>
> ASUS P/I P55T2P4 MB w/ 512k pipeline burst w/ P5-133, 64MB EDO
> (non-parity) RAM, SMC ethernet card, Matrox Mystique 4MB video,
> ProAudiospectrum 16 sound w/ SCSI and Supra Express 28.8 Plug-N-Pray
> modem.
>
> I started w/ 2.1.5R --> 2.2 SNAP 961014 --> 3.0 SNAP 970209 -->
> 3.0-current CVSUP 4/6 w/ make world & kernel rebuild.
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, David Nugent wrote:
>
> > > > I've been trying to reproduce the problem on the other machines,
> > > > but be damned if I can even see a pattern. It is a very uncomplicated
> > > > system P166/32mb RAM, 2 large EIDE drives, no X, just ppp dialin lines
> > > > with a digiboard card. Anyone else wish to exchange notes?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Does this machine reboot alot?
> >
> > I guess "alot" is somewhat subjective, but rebooting spontaneously
> > for any reason is a lot in my books! :-)
> >
> > But around once at least every 3 days it'll just reboot, and some
> > days are worse than others. No message, no (apparent) panic. As
> > I've already mentioned, though, I don't have DDB enabled on that
> > system, but even if I did it may not do any good.
> >
> > > I'm reboot mine at will simply by dropping
> > > pppd or killing it.
> >
> > Ouch. I don't *think* it is as simple as that. This machine varies
> > between 7500 - 9200 minites of user dialin time per day, 99% of
> > connections being pppd. If the problem was pppd dropping, then
> > it'd be a lot more frequently!
> >
> > Then again... I did notice only yesterday that when one machine
> > that was connected via a standard sio device hung up, the machine
> > rebooted pretty much at that same instant, although this is the
> > only time I've noticed the coincidence. Activity on the digiboard
> > ports don't seem to be involved, and that's where all of the dialin
> > customers call in. Activity on the standard serial ports is
> > relatively infrequent.
> >
> > Might it be an sio problem? If this is possible, then I might
> > revert to an earlier version of the sio driver and see if I can
> > work out what's going on.
> >
> >
> > --
> > David Nugent - Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia
> > Voice +61-3-9791-9547 Data/BBS +61-3-9792-3507 3:632/348@fidonet
> > davidn@freebsd.org davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn/
> >
> >
> >
>
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