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Date:      Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:37:12 +0200
From:      Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= <uqs@spoerlein.net>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        ed@80386.nl, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, rwatson@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, des@des.no, rafan@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r194628 - head/lib/ncurses/ncurses
Message-ID:  <20090630193712.GA5446@roadrunner.spoerlein.net>
In-Reply-To: <20090630.094632.195416436.imp@bsdimp.com>
References:  <86prcl23k8.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20090630.085955.63054488.imp@bsdimp.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0906301631470.28381@fledge.watson.org> <20090630.094632.195416436.imp@bsdimp.com>

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On Tue, 30.06.2009 at 09:46:32 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> In message: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0906301631470.28381@fledge.watson.org>
>             Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> : On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> : 
> : > Last time this BBQ came up, I thought it was agreed that there would be a 
> : > xterm-XXX that didn't do this behavior for those folks that think the 
> : > current behavior is harmfully wrong...
> : 
> : Whereas I think it's a bug in more(1)/less(1) that it tries to use those 
> : sequences...
> 
> Agreed.  vi too.  I'll note that on Mac OS, in the xterm, you don't
> see this with either...  But I don't know how to undo tic(1)
> formatting to get back to the raw xterm entries...

For vim(1) you can use something like set t_ti= t_te=

Btw, I do like the current behaviour, but if $PAGER can be coerced into
not clearing screen after exit, I think more people could be persuaded.

Cheers,
Ulrich Spörlein
-- 
http://www.dubistterrorist.de/



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