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Date:      Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:00:18 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Dima Dorfman <dima@unixfreak.org>
To:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: docs/27599: md(4) manpage enhancement 
Message-ID:  <200106162300.f5GN0IH90724@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR docs/27599; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dima Dorfman <dima@unixfreak.org>
To: Stefan `Sec` Zehl <sec@42.org>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/27599: md(4) manpage enhancement 
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:52:52 -0700

 Stefan `Sec` Zehl <sec@42.org> writes:
 > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:57:23PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote:
 > > sec@ice.42.org writes:
 > > > --- /usr/export/src/share/man/man4/md.4	Sun Dec 31 03:11:56 2000
 > > > +++ ./md.4	Thu May 24 00:56:57 2001
 > > > @@ -59,6 +59,11 @@
 > > >  with the kernel option
 > > >  .Dv MD_NSECT .
 > > >  .Pp
 > > > +Be warned that due to kernel constraints such a
 > > > +.Nm
 > > > +disk cannot be bigger than a certain maximum size.
 > > > +This size can be found in the 'Limit' column of 'vmstat -m'.
 > > > +.Pp
 > > 
 > > It looks to me like the man page already states this:
 > > 
 > >      The default maximum size of a md disk backed by malloc(9) is 20,000 se
 > c-
 > >      tors of 512 bytes each.  This can be changed with the kernel option
 > >      MD_NSECT.
 > > 
 > > Perhaps it might make sense to mention vmstat(8), but I don't think
 > > it's appropriate to add another paragraph, most of which just repeats
 > > what has already been said.
 > 
 > I'm sorry, but you misunderstand. The problem I mention has nothing to
 > do with MD_NSECT. You can raise MD_NSECT all the way, but the mentioned
 > 'Limit' column of 'vmstat -m' Is unaffected by that. That is exactly
 > where this comes from. The default MD_NSECT is small enough to avoid any
 > problems, but when you increase it, you run into that other, not yet
 > documented limit which will HANG your machine.
 > If my english isn't clear enough, feel free to improve it. But please
 > add a warning to the manpage.
 
 Okay, I did misunderstand.  But it still says what you want:
 
      The malloc(9) backed disks are severely limited in size by constraints
      imposed by malloc(9).  The limit imposed depends on the amount of physi-
      cal RAM in the machine, and covers all malloc(9) backed instances of md
      devices.
 
 but perhaps that could do with some elaboraton.  How about this:
 
      The malloc(9) backed disks are severely limited in size by constraints
      imposed by malloc(9).  Specifically, only one malloc bucket s used, which
      means that all md devices with malloc(9) backing must share the malloc
      per-bucket quota.  The exact size of this quota varies, in particuar with
      the amount of RAM in the system.  The exact value can be determined with
      vmstat(8).
 
 
 > 
 > CU,
 >     Sec
 > -- 
 > There are too many priorities. One has to prioritize priorities. -- Wietse
 > 

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