Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 02:41:37 -0500 From: Scott Bennett <bennett@sdf.org> To: list1@gjunka.com Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Radeon 5770, graphics/gpu-firmware-kmod, and graphics/drm-fbsd11.2-kmod Message-ID: <202004140741.03E7fbPV002386@sdf.org> In-Reply-To: <f5959969-badc-1c66-0bc4-b06e09c6dfae@gjunka.com> References: <202004131231.03DCVxkN022232@sdf.org> <f5959969-badc-1c66-0bc4-b06e09c6dfae@gjunka.com>
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Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> wrote:
>
> On 13/04/2020 12:31, Scott Bennett wrote:
> >>
> >> I believe so, but I don't have the hardware to test.
> >> drm-fbsd11.2-kmod is fairly old though, and only works on 11. Any
> >> reason you haven't updated to FreeBSD 12?
> > Yes. To date, every attempt to build 12.1-STABLE on my 11.3-STABLE
> > system has failed in seconds. I have no idea how I can upgrade to 12.1-STABLE
> > until I can build it. I do emphatically *not* intend to install from scratch
> > again, especially not given the thoroughly braindead ZFS installation option in
> > the FreeBSD installer. I bit the bullet *once* just to get to root-on-ZFS under
> > 11.1, and it required a *lot* of work to get it configured the way I wanted it
> > because of the idiot installer.
>
>
> Do you mean 12-STABLE or 12.1-RELEASE? What's exactly failing? I
> compiled 12-STABLE successfully last week, albeit admittedly not on 11.
>
12-STABLE.
>
> > Thus, for the fifth time since I began using FreeBSD at the beginning of 2005
> > (5.2.1-RELEASE), I do not have safely usable graphics on my system. That leaves
> > me with only lynx(1) as a web browser and many other applications I can't run.
> > mplayer, for example, is only good for audio files, not video files. Even though
> > NetBSD just introduced ZFS in 9.0, mprime, which I run, is not available for any
> > other BSD besides FreeBSD. Also, it's not clear to me that pools upgraded to the
> > features introduced in FreeBSD 11.2 can be used with whatever level of ZFS is
> > currently imported into NetBSD. So NetBSD isn't an option for me. AFAIK, none of
> > the other BSDs have ever implemented superpages either. So, for the nonce, I am
> > stuck with FreeBSD.
>
>
> I share your pain. I can't use any of my desktop with FreeBSD 12-X apart
> from one, which is running an NVidia based graphics. But I just learned
> recently that 13 CURRENT works on the one that has AMD Vega 64 so maybe
> I will convince myself to take more risk and switch, at least a desktop
> (not any of my servers), to 13 CURRENT?
>
Good luck to you with that. I've done bleeding-edge stuff too much to enjoy it
anymore. Ordinarily I now refuse to update to a .0 OS. The worst problems of a new
major release tend to be fixed by the .1 release. Of course, that doesn't buy me
anything over always going to the next release when the .2 release introduces a cluster
of really nasty bugs like 11.2 did that have gone unfixed ever since.
Scott
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