Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:58:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Lew <hlew@www2.shoppersnet.com> To: Randy Berndt <rberndt@nething.com> Cc: Mike Burgett <mburgett@cmnsens.zoom.com>, "hardware@freebsd.org" <hardware@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: K6-200 Has anyone successfully done a 'make world' ? Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970811201933.27662A-100000@www2.shoppersnet.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19970811205642.00712384@nething.com>
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On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Randy Berndt wrote:
> At 05:34 PM 8/11/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >On Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:22:21 -0700, David Greenman wrote:
> >
> >>>I've tried everything but a new chip here, AMD recommended motherboard and
> >>>cooler and all, without getting through a 'make world'. The new chip is
> on
> >>>the way. :) Has *anyone* been able to do a 'make world' successfully with
> >>>this chip?
> >>
> >> I only have the 166MHz part, and have not been successful after changing
> >>everything except the chip.
> >
> >Hmmmm. What started off as an annoyance, is getting *really* interesting. I
> >wonder if 2_2_RELENG is somehow incompatible with the chip? AMD claims
> >compatibility with FreeBSD 2.0 on their compatability list, but I wonder if
> >that included rebuilding all the sources? Seems to run fine when it's just
> >perking along doing normal stuff'n quick builds...
>
> Pardon me for being REALLY dense, but .... Isn't the K6 supposed to be
> compatible with the Pentium >> CHIP << ??? Not a program that operates on
> that chip???
>
I think this will be a never ending topic of conversation, but let's try
to look at all possibilities.
Questions to Ask/Answer/Consider:
What configurations (i.e. Motherboard & chipset, cpu, and hd controller is
everyone using with the K6)? The problem here is that no one has posted full
configuration details, so I urge you guys to do so here.
CPU Model:
Motherboard:
Chipset:
L2 Cache:
System Memory:
HD Controller:
Hard Drives:
Bios:
Switching/Linear VRM:
HS Grease Applied:
Fan Type:
Make World:
General FreeBSD Stuff:
FreeBSD Version:
Things to think about:
1) The K6-233 does run quite hot... Heatsink grease is required for all AMD
K6s according to AMD (I would say a fast fan is a good idea too).
2) I have ran a K6-200 as a FreeBSD box and it does run fine, but I am
not the type who does make worlds so I can't tell you if it really/really
doesn't fail doing that test. It runs fine for typical stuff (X windows,
telnet sessions, etc.)
3) I think everyone I have heard around here says that they have "make world"
problems were using Asus motherboards. Is this just a coincidence? Yes, I
know you guys choose Asus because it is generally a high end motherboard
manufacturer. (The K6 does draw more current that a Pentium/MMX so a board
that works fine on a Pentium/MMX may not necessarily work on a K6, so
swapping it for a Pentium/MMX cpu does not necessarily make all things
equal).
Anyway my configuration responses. Anyone want to keep a record of them
all?
CPU Model: AMD K6-200
Motherboard: FreeTech F63T
Chipset: 430VX
L2 Cache: 256K Pipeline Burst
System Memory: 64MB EDO
HD Controller: Adaptec 2940UW
Hard Drives: 2 Quantum SCSI-2 Fireballs
Bios: Award 6/24/97
Switching/Linear VR: Linear
HS Grease Applied: Yes
Fan Type: Cyrix 6x86 (fast)
Make World: not tested
General FreeBSD Stuff: no problems
FreeBSD Version: 2.1.7.1R
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