Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 10:38:17 -0700 From: Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net> To: Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Goran Gajic <ggajic@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu> Subject: Re: question regarding tap/tun devices Message-ID: <20060530173817.GB6706@odin.ac.hmc.edu> In-Reply-To: <20060530094715.L79162@fledge.watson.org> References: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0605282032240.10175@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu> <20060530013856.GA26022@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20060530094715.L79162@fledge.watson.org>
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--JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 09:49:01AM +0100, Robert Watson wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 29 May 2006, Brooks Davis wrote: >=20 > >On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 08:33:32PM +0200, Goran Gajic wrote: > >>I'm running 7.0-CURRENT build Thu May 25 23:17:10 CEST 2006 GENERIC=20 > >>config. > >>While playing with dynamips emulator which uses tap I've noticed that > >>ifconifg tun0 create or ifconfig tap0 create doesn't work (this doesn't > >>have anything to do with emulator which works great). > > > >These interfaces don't use the network interface cloning interface and= =20 > >thus can not be created with ifconfig. This should be fixed, but the /d= ev=20 > >based cloning hackes they use make this difficult. >=20 > I've never quite understood if this is a problem or a benefit. =20 > Devfs-cloning of tap and tun are very convenient from an application writ= er=20 > perspective -- you just open /dev/tap or /dev/tun, and magic happens. Wi= th=20 > our current ifnet cloning interface, is it possible to say "atomically=20 > create and return the next available interface number"? If you don't provide a unit number (i.e. "ifconfig gif create") you get the next available one and ifconfig outputs it on stdout (unless you rename it in the same command). I think we'll need to support /dev/{tap,tun} style cloning in the future (there's way too much code that depends on it), but I think we also should support ifconfig cloning as well. The two main reasons I see for doing so are that users now expect it and that is provides a way to remove the interfaces. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEfIMHXY6L6fI4GtQRArTKAKCofa4tw8Ga4Qnu/xrHed1joR/rdQCgnrmD e5bydga1MAZdlK+C5imopbA= =KHwt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq--
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