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Date:      Sun, 03 May 1998 18:53:43 +0200
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Randall Hopper <rhh@ct.picker.com>
Cc:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: bin/5296 
Message-ID:  <11660.894214423@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 03 May 1998 12:35:20 EDT." <19980503123520.A5017@ct.picker.com> 

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In message <19980503123520.A5017@ct.picker.com>, Randall Hopper writes:

>Ok, now I know.  In the future I'll be less intent on investigating and
>logging detailed PRs for bugs in less trafficed areas since they could just
>be closed.

This is the wrong response.  The right response would have been:
	"Ok, now I know.  In the future I will try to provide a patch
	for the problems I find, since nobody would expect people who
	spend their spare-time on a free OS to be able to fix all the
	bugs by them selves."
	
>This is different from the style of bug tracking I'm used to.

This is different from most other software you use.

>This open PR state info is useful for record keeping and searches.

Unfortunately, it also clutters up the view and prevents more severe
problems from getting the attention the need.

>Or if someone is looking for an area to contribute that'll make
>the biggest difference, they might like to see how many PRs are outstanding
>on the candidate enditems.

I could have judge this PR wrong, but any PR which I think a committer
would be able to make a meal out of gets put in the "suspended" state
which means "Come and get it guys".

> |Why don't you take a stab at fixing it yourself ?  If you send us a patch
> |bugs like this are likely to get fixed.
>
>If it bubbles to the top of my priority, I will.  As a workaround, I just
>ignore the PID file since it's existance can't be counted on so this isn't
>too high a priority.

Exactly.  And SLIP is on the way out loosing ground to PPP rapidly,
so I don't think anybody would ever assign sufficient priority to
this problem, and consequently:  I closed it.

It is a matter of keeping the tabletop if not even clean or tidy, then at
least stable in a gravitational field...

--
Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member
phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
"ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal

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