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Date:      Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:24:55 -0700
From:      Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        Christopher Schulte <christopher@schulte.org>, "Jay Keller" <jaykeller4@hotmail.com>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Updating ssh
Message-ID:  <15365.32855.717257.546724@caddis.yogotech.com>
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> >>Perhaps FreeBSD should put these things in /usr/local from the get-go?
> >
> >No.  /usr/local is for software installed outside the base system.  The ssh package is part of the base system, 
> 
> Not really. It's not maintained by the FreeBSD Core Team and is updated 
> independently.

Almost nothing is maintained by the core team.  It is however maintained
by a non-core developer (green), who creates FreeBSD-specific patches
and applies them to the released OpenSSH software.  So, in effect, it is
maintained as part of FreeBSD.  (The installed version is different from
the ports version).

> It merely "comes with" the base system. That's an important
> distinction.

See above.

> Myself, I believe that third-party products should be kept in separate
> directories -- preferably in the default ones used by the developers,
> unless these are totally bogus. If this were done with SSH, it would
> be in /usr/local from the get-go and upgrades would work. Ditto with
> Perl.

The software that is part of the base system is *part of the base
system*.  In other words, it's required (in some sense of the word) in
order for the rest of the system to work.

If you want a completely modular system, go with PCIX. :)



Nate

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