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Date:      Sun, 5 Jan 1997 16:27:06 -0500 (EST)
From:      spork <spork@super-g.com>
To:        wb2oyc@cyberenet.net
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Good buy or not?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.970105162041.24872B-100000@super-g.inch.com>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.970105092857.wb2oyc@cyberenet.net>

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We bought some of these as Win95 workstations and had some troubles with
them...  Apparently these are factory refurbs.  The built-in video is
pretty crappy and the memory expansion is fairly limited (2 spare slots
plus 8M onboard).  I haven't tried putting FBSD on one, but one of our
support staff had tons of troubles trying to install Linux...  

On the other hand, my workstation has an AMD "586" (which I guess is
essentially a 133MHz 486) and the board and processor only cost $100 at
the time I bought it.  Probably cheaper now.  Grab a 2G drive for $200, a
nice ATI 2M graphics card for $80, a $30 case, and a cheapo 3Com for $70,
and you've got a decent non-server box.  It's more than adequate for a
workstation.  I have a similar machine with Win95 running at home, and
again, performance is very comfy.  32M of RAM is only $150 now, so I
loaded up.  More memory seems to be much better than more processor...

Charles

On Sun, 5 Jan 1997 wb2oyc@cyberenet.net wrote:

> 	I wonder if anyone on the list may have experience with Packard
> Bell machines, running FreeBSD?  The reason for the question is, a local
> store is selling excess stock that didn't sell during the holiday season
> at a price that is very, very, tempting.  Actually, the price is only a
> little more than the cost of a decent motherboard, and it is for a
> complete system, including monitor, 4X CD-ROM, etc.  The processor is a
> 75Mhz Pentium.  I don't know the whole story of the Pentium line, but
> would it be reasonable to assume that the cpu could be readily upgraded?
> Thats a detail that might depend entirely on the capability of the board
> in the machine, and I know little about PB, other than the adverse stories
> of the recent past.  Are they still using "refurbished" stuff and selling
> it as new?  Do their machines use standard memory components, so they
> could be easily upgraded with parts from other vendors, etc?  They don't
> mention the vendor, but the machine includes an video accelerator type of
> card, and the machine is billed as a "multimedia home PC".  The monitor is
> one of those goofy looking things with speakers glued to its sides.  It is
> a model 4240.  Anyone have any comments on its insides, and whether it
> might be as good a buy as it appears to be?
> 
> 	My current machine is an old 486 box, and I need space for an
> additional HD, etc.  Running an AMD 486/133, so this machine would not
> really be much of an upgrade in itself in terms of performance, but if
> possible, I would quickly upgrade its cpu and memory.  Would this be a
> decent platform to build on or not?
> 
> Thanks
> Paul
> 
> 
> 




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