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Date:      Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:34:06 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za>, Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>, "Steven E. Ames" <steve@virtual-voodoo.com>, Soren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>, Boris Popov <bp@butya.kz>, Valentin Chopov <valentin@valcho.net>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: CURRENT is freezing again ... 
Message-ID:  <200011171834.LAA76119@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 17 Nov 2000 19:51:07 %2B0100." <25636.974487067@critter> 
References:  <25636.974487067@critter>  

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In message <25636.974487067@critter> Poul-Henning Kamp writes:
: In message <200011171826.LAA75925@harmony.village.org>, Warner Losh writes:
: >In message <2967.974461715@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Sheldon Hearn writes:
: >: The problem with a hard lock-up out of which you can't escape into the
: >: debugger is that it makes meaningful bug reports impossible.  My non-SMP
: >: workstation has exhibited apparently arbitrary lock-ups since the advent
: >: of SMPng.
: >
: >You can also short IOCHK to ground to get an NMI which kicks you into
: >the debugger, even in an interrupt context.
: 
: Bad news for you warner:  On a too large sample of my newer
: motherboards this doesn't work anymore :-(

There's also a pci signal that you can either pull up or pull down
that's supposed to give you the same results.  I've never really
needed to know it.

Warner



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