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stable-digest          Sunday, March 8 1998          Volume 04 : Number 029



In this issue:
Re: PCI LKM support added to -stable 
Re: PCI LKM support added to -stable
Re: sio0: X events for device with no tp 
this morning's snap does not install...
XFree86-3.3.2 is out ...
Re: this morning's snap does not install... 
Re: XFree86-3.3.2 is out ... 
Mail failure
Re: 'make world': /bin/sh not found
User group

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 08:29:09 -0800
From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject: Re: PCI LKM support added to -stable 

> Is anybody opposed to these changes ?

Sounds like something we can live with, though I wonder why you
propose to make a new rc.lkm file rather than simply modifying rc to
do the right thing when /lkm/pci/lkm.map is found?  /etc/rc.lkm
seems to be a mostly gratuitous creation of another file.

					Jordan

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:21:10 +0100
From: Stefan Esser <se@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject: Re: PCI LKM support added to -stable

On 1998-03-07 08:29 -0800, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
> Sounds like something we can live with, though I wonder why you
> propose to make a new rc.lkm file rather than simply modifying rc to
> do the right thing when /lkm/pci/lkm.map is found?  /etc/rc.lkm
> seems to be a mostly gratuitous creation of another file.

Ok. I don't need a separate file, but thought it was easier to get
this change accepted, if it was kept in a file of its own.

If you don't mind making /etc/rc more complex than it currently is, 
then I'm going to merge the PCI LKM support in.

What about the location of the PCI LKM loadable modules ?

I have suggested to create a new directory (/lkm/pci) for them, but
there is no technical reason to not put them directly into /lkm.

How about the location of the file that maps PCI vendor/device IDs
to module names. Should it reside with the LKMs, or be found in /etc ?

Regards, STefan

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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 11:04:39 -0700
From: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
Subject: Re: sio0: X events for device with no tp 

> > If the modem is actually showing up on sio0, then it's possible that 
> > things are conflicting.  Have you tried changing the configuration to 
> > move it to another port address?
> 
> Ok, this is the hint I seemed to need: In the kernel configuration I
> have:
> 
> sio0 at 0x3f8 irq 4
> sio1 at 0x2f8 irq 3
> 
> But the default (0x1) configuration for the modem had it at 0x3f8.
> I changed ætc/pccard.conf to use configuration 0x3 which uses 0x2f8
> and the problem seems to be solved.

Ahh, an I/O port conflict.  Yes, that (along with the rest of allocated
resources) isn't done as nicely as it could be.

I/O ports should be able to be allocated by the driver (like IRQ's), but
it appears that the code as written requires the ports in the driver in
the kernel config file to be the same as the PCCARD I/O ports in the
config entry.

I spaced this requirement, sorry.



Nate


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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:34:33 -0800 (PST)
From: "Michael V. Harding" <mvh@netcom1.netcom.com>
Subject: this morning's snap does not install...

I did a 'make distribution' in /usr/src/etc, and it still didn't
work..

===> share/termcap
install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444  termcap termcap.db /usr/share/misc
install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444  /usr/src/share/termcap/map3270
/usr/share/misc
install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 termcap.5.gz  /usr/share/man/man5
===> share/timedef
===> share/timedef/data
for l in da_DK.ISO_8859-1  de_AT.ISO_8859-1  de_DE.ISO_8859-1 
en_GB.ISO_8859-1  en_US.ISO_8859-1  es_ES.ISO_8859-1  fi_FI.ISO_8859-1 
fr_FR.ISO_8859-1  hr_HR.ISO_8859-2  is_IS.ISO_8859-1  ja_JP.EUC    ja_JP.SJIS
     it_IT.ISO_8859-1  ko_KR.EUC         lt_LN.ISO_8859-1  nl_NL.ISO_8859-1 
no_NO.ISO_8859-1  pl_PL.ISO_8859-2  pt_PT.ISO_8859-1  ru_SU.CP866      
ru_SU.KOI8-R      sl_SI.ISO_8859-2  sv_SE.ISO_8859-1; do  install -c -m 644
-o bin -g bin $l.out  /usr/share/locale/$l/LC_TIME;  done
install: /usr/share/locale/pl_PL.ISO_8859-2/LC_TIME: No such file or directory
*** Error code 71

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1


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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 14:40:56 -0500
From: "Pedro F. Giffuni" <giffunip@asme.org>
Subject: XFree86-3.3.2 is out ...

Being optimistic...

Any chance the new Xfree86 will make it to 2.2.6-R? I heard it's only a
minor update with new features, but the "real" stuff, like the code
donated by Metrolink will have to wait for 3.4.

cheers,
	Pedro.

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 14:59:01 -0800
From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject: Re: this morning's snap does not install... 

> I did a 'make distribution' in /usr/src/etc, and it still didn't
> work..

Fixed - I somehow missed the mtree changes to go with the new locale
stuff.

					Jordan

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 15:01:58 -0800
From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject: Re: XFree86-3.3.2 is out ... 

> Any chance the new Xfree86 will make it to 2.2.6-R? I heard it's only a
> minor update with new features, but the "real" stuff, like the code
> donated by Metrolink will have to wait for 3.4.

Yes, I'm planning on shipping the new bits.

					Jordan

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stable-digest         Saturday, March 7 1998         Volume 04 : Number 028



In this issue:
rc: rm -f /var/run/*
Re:-stable suitable for small-enterprise NFS server?
Re: panic in vfs_bio.c getnewbuf+0x21f 
Re: RAID Controllers
Re: RAID Controllers 
Re: Request for next release
Re: panic in vfs_bio.c getnewbuf+0x21f 
Re: panic in vfs_bio.c getnewbuf+0x21f 
Re: rc: rm -f /var/run/*
Re: Request for next release 
sio0: X events for device with no tp
Re: sio0: X events for device with no tp 
for 2.2.6...
Re: Request for next release
Re: Request for next release
Re: bind
Re: bind 
Re: sio0: X events for device with no tp 
Re: bind
Re: bind 
PCI LKM support added to -stable

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:30:07 +0100 (MET)
From: Axel Thimm <thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Subject: rc: rm -f /var/run/*

Shouldn't this line in /etc/rc read `rm -fr /var/run/*' ?
xemacs is creating a directory there, for example.
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:58:20 -0500 (EST)
From: "Viren R. Shah" <viren@rstcorp.com>
Subject: Re:-stable suitable for small-enterprise NFS server?

>>>>> "Ben" == Snob Art Genre <benedict@echonyc.com> writes:

 Ben> I can't imagine that this would be the case . . . but are there any NFS
 Ben> issues I should know about before building a ~12-user -stable NFS box?

I had asked a similar question a while back (couple of weeks ago). You
can check the mailing list archives.
The gist of it was:
1. Always use nfs v2 mounts -- use mountd with the -2 flag, and
   expressly tell nfs clients to use nfs v2 mounts, for e.g. in solaris
   use the "vers=2" option in vfstab(?).
2. nfs v3 is more unreliable than nfs v2, at least in FreeBSD
3. Get a decent card (Intel Ether Express is a good one right
   now). Unfortunately, we're stuck with a 3com 3c905 (vx0), which
   seems to work ok so far, but doesn't give great performance.

>From my testing so far, with a 2.2.5-STABLE (980303-SNAP) nfs server:
1. SunOS 4.1.x clients : very reliable.
2. Solaris 2.5.1: still testing
3. AIX and Linux: will be testing.

 Ben>  Ben


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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:05:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Timmons <skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu>
Subject: Re: panic in vfs_bio.c getnewbuf+0x21f 

My kernel.old is from saturday (2/28) and doesn't display the problem. 
Did I mention that I'm running a P90 overclocked to 333mhz?  (Just
kidding, the hardware is conventional and very stable.) 

- - -Chris

On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, David Greenman wrote:

> >I sent David Greenman some info about a fatal trap 12 - page fault in
> >kernel mode panic I'm getting with this morning's -stable kernel.  
> >
> >it stops cvsup to my ccd /home cold in about the same place every time.
> >
> >#10 0xf01304d7 in getnewbuf (slpflag=0, slptimeo=0, size=3072,
> >maxsize=8192) at ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:957#10 0xf01304d7 in getnewbuf
> >(slpflag=0, slptimeo=0, size=3072, maxsize=8192) at
> >../../kern/vfs_bio.c:957
> 
>    Yes, this is disturbing. I don't understand how the fix I brought in
> could cause that panic (being in a different part of the code and
ineffective
> for all filesystems except NFS client), but stranger things have happened.
> 
> -DG
> 
> David Greenman
> Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project
> 


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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:37:53 -0800 (PST)
From: "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com>
Subject: Re: RAID Controllers

> 
> 
> On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Tom wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, lrios wrote:
> > 
> > > Does Free BSD 2-2-5 have support for RAID controllers?? If so what brand
> > > of controllers will it support??
> > > If any would be appreciated..
> > 
> >   - Any kind of SCSI-SCSI RAID box
> Can you provide me an example of boards and manufacturers?

www.cmd.com, look at the CRD5440.  If you need a source for them we are
a CMD reseller, CRD5440's go for $2517 in singles, price gets better if
you want 2 or more.

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 11:02:17 -0500
From: "Gary Palmer" <gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject: Re: RAID Controllers 

Alexander Tatmaniants wrote in message ID
<Pine.BSF.3.96.980306122907.19372C-100000@solaric.UkrCard.Kiev.UA>:

> On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Tom wrote:

> > On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, lrios wrote:

> >   - Any kind of SCSI-SCSI RAID box

> Can you provide me an example of boards and manufacturers?

CMD, DMI. Both should have WWW pages. I believe Symbios also does
SCSI2SCSI RAID (I think the Sun RSM product is their stuff rebadged)

Gary
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:45:05 -0700 (MST)
From: "Chad R. Larson" <chad@freebie.dcfinc.com>
Subject: Re: Request for next release

> If the next CDROM release of -stable is intended to be a 4 CD monster,
> would it be possible for the insert to give detailed instructions
> and information to dummies like me about what exactly each of the
> CD's are used for?

Well, the first one you install from, the second one is the live
filesystem (very useful with the boot floppy to run FreeBSD on a system
you don't have permission to install on, or as the worlds most complete
"fixit" disk), the third has the complete CVS repository (which allows
you to extract =any= version that has existed, and to see the comment
history if you're curious what was changed and why) and the fourth has
contributed software (presumably gettoized to avoid confusion over who
is supporting it).

But I agree, that second pair of CDs seemed a bit like a
marketing-driven "mine is bigger than your's".

Any suggestions for what ought to be on two and half gigabytes of media?

	-crl
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:54:59 -0800
From: David Greenman <dg@root.com>
Subject: Re: panic in vfs_bio.c getnewbuf+0x21f 

>My kernel.old is from saturday (2/28) and doesn't display the problem. 
>Did I mention that I'm running a P90 overclocked to 333mhz?  (Just
>kidding, the hardware is conventional and very stable.) 

   Can you try backing out just the vfs_bio.c change and see if this also
cures the problem?

- - -DG

David Greenman
Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:33:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Timmons <skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu>
Subject: Re: panic in vfs_bio.c getnewbuf+0x21f 

I'll do this but I won't have a chance until Saturday morning at the
earliest.  

- - -Chris

On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, David Greenman wrote:

> >My kernel.old is from saturday (2/28) and doesn't display the problem. 
> >Did I mention that I'm running a P90 overclocked to 333mhz?  (Just
> >kidding, the hardware is conventional and very stable.) 
> 
>    Can you try backing out just the vfs_bio.c change and see if this also
> cures the problem?
> 
> -DG
> 
> David Greenman
> Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project
> 


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Date: Fri,  6 Mar 98 22:46:07 +0100
From: Ben Stuyts <benst@terminus.stuyts.nl>
Subject: Re: rc: rm -f /var/run/*

On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Axel Thimm wrote:

> Shouldn't this line in /etc/rc read `rm -fr /var/run/*' ?
> xemacs is creating a directory there, for example.

sudo too.
The problem is both in -stable and in -current.

Best regards,
Ben

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 15:12:40 -0800
From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject: Re: Request for next release 

> But I agree, that second pair of CDs seemed a bit like a
> marketing-driven "mine is bigger than your's".

Not really - I got a lot of requests for the CVS repository and simply
couldn't fit it on two, nor does the package collection fit on a single
CD anymore.  4 was inevitable.

					Jordan

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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 00:35:20 +0100
From: User Marko Marko Schuetz <marko@cs.uni-frankfurt.de>
Subject: sio0: X events for device with no tp

I was using 2.2.5+PAO and am running -stable now. The PCCARD modem I
use is a Megahertz XJ3288i. 

When I insert the modem it is correctly identified

Mar  7 00:25:13 kinetic /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0
Mar  7 00:25:24 kinetic /kernel: sio1: type 16550A

and I have iijppp configured to automatically start at modem
insertion. BUT unless I disable sio0 at boot I get 

Mar  7 00:09:28 kinetic /kernel: sio1: type 16550A
Mar  7 00:09:50 kinetic /kernel: sio0: 64 events for device with no tp
Mar  7 00:10:16 kinetic /kernel: sio0: 64 events for device with no tp
Mar  7 00:10:18 kinetic /kernel: sio0: 2 events for device with no tp
Mar  7 00:10:18 kinetic /kernel: sio0: 6 events for device with no tp
Mar  7 00:10:31 kinetic /kernel: sio0: 1 events for device with no tp
Mar  7 00:10:31 kinetic /kernel: sio0: 2 events for device with no tp

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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 14:14:11 +0000
From: nik@iii.co.uk
Subject: Re: 'make world': /bin/sh not found

On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 11:00:07PM +0000, nik@iii.co.uk wrote:
> This is an odd one. I'm trying to update my 2.2.5-stable system to the
> latest -stable. My last successful 'make world' was on Jan 31 this
> year.
> 
> I tried again about 2 weeks ago, and 'make buildworld' is now failing at
> 
>   ===> gnu/lib/libg++/doc
>   rm -f g++FAQ.info* libg++.info* iostream.info* Errs errs mklog
lgpl.texinfo
>   /bin/sh: not found
>   *** Error code 1
> 
>   Stop.

Pilot error <sigh>

I was appending to MAKEFLAGS in /etc/make.conf so that make would search 
both /usr/share/mk and /usr/local/share/mk (see 
<URL:http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=5745>; for why).

After commenting that line out the build (and subsequent install) worked
flawlessly.

N
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Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 20:29:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Vincey <vince@rocler.qc.ca>
Subject: User group

Hi,
   I want to know if anyone is interested in a french/english FreeBSD user
group in Quebec, Canada.  If so, email me.  If there's enough interest, we'll
get it going.  Also, if you have any suggestions, please include them.  Hope
to
hear from you.

Vince
~~~~~
vince@rocler.qc.ca


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