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Date:      Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:17:41 +0200
From:      Christof Schulze <christof.schulze@gmx.net>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: OT: 2d password
Message-ID:  <200904201317.44334.christof.schulze@gmx.net>
In-Reply-To: <20090420162802.5959c7fa@icy.local>
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Am Montag 20 April 2009 11:28:02 schrieb K=E1=BB=B3 Anh, Hu=E1=BB=B3nh:
> [ ways of generating passwords]
>
> Finally I get into 2-d moving on the keyboard as described in my first
> post. I check some passwords in http://www.testyourpassword.com/ and see
> that some stupid patterns on keyboard show a "STRONG" status. I event
> get the BEST password with some simple moving around symbols and
> letters.
I good way to remember secure passwords was presented in the uptimes=20
magazine a while ago in an article about passwords and their security.

Good passwords contain a lot of entropy.
Also the entropy of letters in the beginning of words seems to be higher=20
than the entropy towards the end of words in western languages.
The proposal that the author Thomas Maus is making is this:

Pick a sentence and take the first character(s) from each word to be your=20
password.

Example
"I like doing laundry wednesday evening 8pm."

the resulting password would be:
"Ildlwe8p"

It is easy to remember because the sentence is natural language. Also it is=
=20
fairly easy to come up with.
This article provides some good insights into the effectivity of password=20
policies. The bottom line is that the way these policies are used today=20
cause weaker passwords because they work against the user. In the end some=
=20
proposals are made what to do to obtain better passwords and how to=20
implement a policy for stronger passwords.

Regards

Christof


>
> Though Athony said "qweasdzxc" is a popular I still wonder whether we
> can use complex patterns on keyboard? And what's tool that help me to
> check password strength?
>
> Regards,
>
> PS: !!WARNING!!
>
> Discussing this topic may cause your habits to be known by others. I
> don't have intend to gather your information. Thank you for your
> understanding.


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