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Date:      Mon, 6 May 2019 11:24:35 +0200
From:      "Patrick M. Hausen" <hausen@punkt.de>
To:        Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>
Cc:        Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ZFS...
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Hi!

> Am 01.05.2019 um 02:14 schrieb Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>:
> And the irony is the FreeBSD policy to default to zfs on new installs =
using the complete drive.. even when there is only one disk available =
and regardless of the cpu or ram class...  with one usb stick I have =
around here it attempted to use zfs on one of my laptops.

But *any* filesystem other than ZFS on a single disk and non-ECC memory =
is worse!

So what=E2=80=99s gained by defaulting back to UFS in these cases?

There=E2=80=99s the edge case of embedded/very low memory systems but =
people who
build these probably know what they are doing? And of course I use UFS =
in VMs
running on a host with ZFS =E2=80=A6 depending on whether I need the =
snapshot/replication
features in the guest or not.

Kind regards,
Patrick
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