Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:54:37 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy <vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET> To: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: FreeBSD mobile Mailing List <freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>, FreeBSD mobile Mailing List <freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>, Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Looking for a new laptop Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.31.0103261052330.2721-100000@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET> In-Reply-To: <XFMail.010326105803.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 26-Mar-01 Vincent Poy wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > > > >> > > > > > 1600x1200 display > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Aren't Dell's about the only laptops with such high res displays? > >> > > > > >> > > > No, the display originally came from IBM. Dell licensed it from > >> > > > IBM... > >> > > > >> > > No, the 1600x1200 panel is made by Toshiba. You're thinking of the > >> > > 1400x1050 panel, which is not "licensed". (The correct term is > >> > > "OEMed".) > >> > > >> > Nope, I'm talking about the 15" 1600x1200 UXGA panel... That's > >> > made by IBM and not Toshiba and I even remember there was a article saying > >> > Dell licensed it from IBM and you're right the term should be OEMed... > >> > It's the panel used on both the IBM A21P and the Dell Inspiron 8000. > >> > >> Funny, then, that when you probe it, it identifies itself as being a > >> Toshiba panel (as opposed to the 1400x1040 display, which reports itself > >> as an IBM panel). > > > > I don't have either the A21P or the Dell i8000 so I can't tell but > > from people who actually have contacts with the engineering at both Dell > > and IBM through the ThinkPad mailing lists and even www.thinkpads.com, the > > 1600x1200 is UXGA and developed by IBM. Toshiba may have licensed the > > techology and built panels as well. I only have a IBM ThinkPad 770Z > > 13.7" 1280x1024 and this one is indeed IBM. I remember several magazines > > such as MaximumPC and Cadence when they did reviews on the IBM ThinkPad > > A21P HXU/HSU models and the Dell Inspiron 8000, it did say the screen is > > 15" UltraXGA and is licensed to Dell from IBM... > > This is from a 5000e which was the first 1600x1200 laptop, AFAIK: > > (**) R128(0): Using flat panel for display > (II) R128(0): Panel size: 1600x1200 > (II) R128(0): Panel ID: Toshiba LTM15C162 > (II) R128(0): Panel Type: Color, Single, TFT > (II) R128(0): Panel Interface: LVDS > (II) R128(0): PLL parameters: rf=2700 rd=60 min=12500 max=25000; xclk=10500 > > Note that Dell had a 1600x1200 display before IBM did. I've had this 5000e > since October. :) IBM always releases things last even though they did manufacture it... That's why on the Dell Inspiron 8000, there is now a 48GIG HDD which is a IBM TravelStar. This won't be available until atleast May 2001 but the IBM ThinkPad A22P's that were recently or have not been announced will not have this drive until the A23P... Even though IBM ThinkPad's are made by IBM, they still are treated no differently than competitors like Dell and other companies when it comes to buying parts.. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message
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