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Date:      Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:20:28 -0700
From:      "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" <michaelv@HeadCandy.com>
To:        dennis@etinc.com (Dennis)
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: mitsumi CD-ROM 
Message-ID:  <199607171620.JAA06023@MindBender.HeadCandy.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 17 Jul 96 10:29:06 -0400. <199607171429.KAA23687@etinc.com> 

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>"Knowing better" isnt the issue. I have countless PCs in my lab, and only
>my servers have SCSI. I dont need scsi for most of what I do, and to pay
>$30 extra for it would be a waste, $150 or $200 is a mega waste
>When I load a linux distrubution (I download FreeBSD), I slap on a cheap 
>IDE CDROM, load it up, and then put it back on the shelf. I dont have to 
>worry about whether the brand of SCSI controller i have is supported, or 
>shared memory, or I/O or anything else. 

OK, this is your opinion, and I can accept that.

>To no-doubt spurn another wide-eyed debate among the academics, I also
>dont want a bus-mastering controller stealing the bus from my more-critical
>communications in a router-system where disk functions are secondary.

This makes no sense.  The only time a bus-mastering controller
"steals" the bus is when you're doing I/O.  An IDE drive not only
steals the bus by implication, but it steals the CPU as well!
Basically, IDE steals the entire machine until the I/O is finished.
At least with a bus-mastering controller, the CPU can run out of the
cache while a disk transfer is in progress.

I can understand your opinion on this, as stated above.  But to think
that you're not getting the bus, and the CPU, stolen, when
bus-mastering would steal only the bus, is a complete
misunderstanding.

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