Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:09:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco <jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP bugs in FreeBSD 2.1.5 Message-ID: <199610161909.OAA28268@brasil.moneng.mei.com> In-Reply-To: <28310.845491800@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Oct 16, 96 11:50:00 am
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> Ah, there's nothing I love more watching a bunch of non-release > engineers endlessly debading the methodologies of release > engineering. :-) > > Guys, this ain't Burger King. You get it the release engineer's way > or not at all. ;-) There's nothing I love more than watching Jordan call me a non-release engineer. (puts on his release engineer cap). What the hell do you think I do at work, for a living? I'll give you a hint: I do not code applications. I'll give you another hint: my last OS release was in total freeze for three months before I released it. Guess I'm a "non-release engineer". Yup. Guess with only a dozen OS releases under my belt that I have absolutely no clue what this is all about. Yup. I will grant that FreeBSD is probably a larger release engineering project because it includes so many different things along with the base OS. However, my paranoia about release engineering may have something to do with the fact that the work I do ends up in medical monitoring equipment, an area where errors are generally not very tolerable. I like procedure and rigor because the last minute change is guaranteed to screw up, no matter how good you are. Do I understand that release engineering is not easy? Yes, I do. Am I interested in seeing the FreeBSD process improve? Yes, I am. Did I say it was easy, or that Jordan was being lazy? No, I did not. Anyways... I'm about as much a non-release engineer as Jordan is a non-FreeBSD hacker. You aren't the only person who has ever been a release engineer, Jordan. Please watch the petty and snide remarks. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Software Engineer, UNIX/Network Hacker, Etc. 414/362-3308 Marquette Electronics, Inc. - R&D - Milwaukee, WI jgreco@mei.com
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