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Date:      Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:58:15 -0700
From:      Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@crodrigues.org>
Cc:        Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>, eadler@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: bin/160979: 9.0 burncd error caused by change to cd0 from acd0
Message-ID:  <4E812DB7.3000302@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAG=rPVeAPt0_=jNXaHcnB8QCtYuvi5z69MDMFEgyD0HBQT0Mcw@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <201109262324.p8QNO0NN070853@freefall.freebsd.org> <4E811FF7.7010607@a1poweruser.com> <4E8126D3.5020407@FreeBSD.org> <CAG=rPVeAPt0_=jNXaHcnB8QCtYuvi5z69MDMFEgyD0HBQT0Mcw@mail.gmail.com>

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On 09/26/2011 18:43, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>> burncd has been part of the system utilities included in the basic
>>> release since release 4.0 and cdrecord is a port. The professional
>>> solution is to remove burncd from the 9.0 system release and add the
>>> cdrecord command to the basic release as the replacement for burncd.
>>> Then add release notes entry of the change.
>>
>> I think you misunderstand the situation. So here are a few hopefully
>> helpful facts:
>>
>> 1. The fact that something is in the base, or in the ports, has
>> absolutely no bearing on whether one piece of software is fundamentally
>> more useful or valuable than another.
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have used burncd on many releases of FreeBSD, on many machines
> without problem.  I can see the fact that burncd suddenly failing to
> work on ATAPI hardware could annoy and confused end-users.

It doesn't fail to work on ATAPI hardware. It fails to work on cd0 which
is a SCSI device. The fact that it's emulated doesn't matter.

> Can we modify burncd to somehow detect if ATAPI-CAM is enabled, and print out
> a more useful error message?

Sure, as soon as someone volunteers to create that patch. No one is
*trying* to annoy users, but things change around here because people
are interested in changing them.


hth,

Doug

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