Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:28:56 +0200 From: Michael Nottebrock <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> To: Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org> Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question... Message-ID: <200307160729.04442.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <83710000.1058317016@lerlaptop.lerctr.org> References: <28540000.1058312375@lerlaptop.lerctr.org> <3F149C5B.5020503@gmx.net> <83710000.1058317016@lerlaptop.lerctr.org>
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On Wednesday 16 July 2003 02:56, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> --On Wednesday, July 16, 2003 02:29:15 +0200 Michael Nottebrock
>
> <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> wrote:
> > Larry Rosenman wrote:
> >> Out of curiosity, should Konsole make a utmp entry?
> >>
> >> xterm makes one, but KDE3.1's Konsole doesn't.
> >
> > That's expected behaviour (of Konsole). It actually does make
> > utmp-entries in Linux, but requires the "utempter" utility/library to do
> > so, which isn't ported.
>
> I guess the next question is what would it take to port utempter?
I'm going to check in the near future. It is only because of your question=
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that I noticed this feature at all - previously I thought there's just no w=
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to do it. However, from a quick glance it seems utempter is a rather obscur=
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RedHat-hack that everyone (in Linuxland) packages, but whose sources are=20
rather hidden - I need to investigate more.
> It's annoying me, because I've got a guest on my system helping debug
> ACPI, and occasionally want to be able to talk him, and I have to have a
> real xterm up.
The general opinion of the KDE developers has always been that it's not up =
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xterm or any terminal to log in a user into utmp but to the session manager=
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i.e. xdm or kdm. If you choose to run kdm, its default configuration will l=
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a user in to utmp - if you prefer to startup X11 with startx however, there=
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no way but letting the terminal do it. I guess that there was some vocal=20
demand for konsole to do that from the startx-crowd - and since the vocal=20
crowds in KDE are usually Linux users, that's probably the reason why someo=
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came up with using utempter as a fix.
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