Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 20:32:23 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov <kib@freebsd.org> To: Kirill Orlov <slowdive@me.com> Cc: Jamie Landeg-Jones <jamie@catflap.org>, jgopensource@proton.me, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A modern programming language for FreeBSD: Swift Message-ID: <aFBVJ7jvwgYqRnnB@kib.kiev.ua> In-Reply-To: <D40071D4-46DC-4F67-B193-5588D32BF5D3@me.com> References: <aE_YwiEypfC2uQI_@kib.kiev.ua> <D40071D4-46DC-4F67-B193-5588D32BF5D3@me.com>
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On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 01:20:00PM -0400, Kirill Orlov wrote: > Sounds like its better to wait for Zig reaching its stable release rather than exploring options from a heavily greed-driven “organization”. > The option there is to have swift in ports, vs. not having it at all. And I very much love to see all impactful languages to be available on FreeBSD. Swift in the base system have exactly the same chances as zig, indeed. > Regards, > -K. > > > On Jun 16, 2025, at 04:42, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 12:35:19AM +0100, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > >> Jordan Gordeev <jgopensource@proton.me> wrote: > >> > >>> The FreeBSD project can leap into the future by choosing a modern programming language to replace C, or continue living in the past, hoping that the rest of the world will do the same. > >> > >> Not a good start to a "sales" pitch. > > > > Perhaphs. > > > > But I expected somewhat more mature inception of the contribution. The > > introduction for it is not great, but the work done could be. Having the > > swift ported is huge amount of work, and I see it as useful. We need it > > to have the system to be a good platform for all modern languages. > > > > IMO Jamie deserves the gratefulness and encouragement for the work done, > > and not the naive sarcasm due to some missed wording. > >
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