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Date:      Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:20:11 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Robert Millan <rmh@debian.org>
Cc:        Jeremy Messenger <mezz.freebsd@gmail.com>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Hans Petter Selasky <hselasky@c2i.net>
Subject:   Re: Automatic load of PCI kernel modules [WAS: [RFT] Automatic load of USB kernel modules]
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On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:03 AM, Robert Millan wrote:

> 2011/6/26 Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>:
>> I like the idea of having a standardized table.  I've done this with =
PC Card and it really works well.  It isn't the design pattern that all =
drivers use, and it may be hard to get everyone lined up on this.  I =
tried PCI back after I did PC Card and met resistance.  Most of the =
resistance was from people that are no longer active in the project, so =
I think that we could do this today.   I suspect that some of the vendor =
drivers today might stand in the way of having PCI be completely =
uniform.
>>=20
>> The big advantage of USB is that it is uniform now.  PCI isn't.  It =
would take a lot of work to make it uniform.
>=20
> If only some PCI drivers can be made uniform, why not provide devd
> autoload support only to those drivers whose maintainers choose to
> make them uniform?  This would give those opposing uniformity a
> compelling reason to change their view, without forcing them into it.

Sure.  The problem is that I don't want it to be another hack like the =
current USB which is specific to PCI.

Warner





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