Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:12:10 +1000 From: Andrew Luke Nesbit <alnesbit@optushome.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Duron Message-ID: <20010123120803.RFOR26799.mss.rdc2.nsw.optushome.com.au@co3027913-a>
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AMD chips are great! Especially if you want to experiment with overclocking. I'm a big fan of the concept of overclocking, not only because of the extra speed increase, but also because you can learn a lot about hardware by doing it... consider it to be a practical way of learning about some PC hardware. Sorry, I digress a lot :-) AMD processors work *beautifully*, provided that you take care in choosing and setting up your hardware properly: First of all, it is absolutely *essential* that the heatsink + thermal paste are applied to the CPU core. If you do not do this, you *will* permanently damage the chip. Once they are applied properly, then the chance of heat damage to the chip is no greater than that of Intel chips. Take extra special care, and take your time, when installing the heatsink. Secondly, you need a good quality power supply unit for maximum reliability (because AMD chips are very particular about running on hardware which performs to spec.) Thirdly, it's a good idea to have good quality RAM modules (this means that the printed circuit board design must be good, the chips themselves must be good, and the construction of the module must be good.) This is much more important if you're overclocking, but even you're not, you'd be surprised at how many flakey PC's have substandard RAM as their cause. Four. A badly designed motherboard can mess with the operation of a PC, due to things like badly designed traces on the printed circuit board wreaking havoc with memory timings, etc, etc. Also, take care that the mobo that you choose has an appropriate chipset. At the moment, most mobos supporting AMD CPUs have VIA brand chipsets, but AMD have one or two chipsets on the market, too. You will not find an Intel chipset on a mobo supporting AMD. Avoid PC Chips brand motherboards like the plague. (Check out the amd.com for lists of AMD-approved PSU's, mobos, etc.) SO to sum up, AMD is great, especially for the person who likes to get under the hood. But remember to choose your all your supporting hardware carefully, because if you do, then you're system will *probably* be more stable. Oh, and do not use a SoundBlaster Live! card. $0.02 by Andrew Nesbit. 23/01/01 9:49:04 PM, "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au> wrote: >I'm guessing the intended use of the systems under discussion is mainly for >playing games ... if so AMD chips >may possibly be OK for the purpose. My experience with computers is totally >business related ..... I have no interest whatever in games. No associate of >mine who works in the same area would even think of using the things. > > >I personally have never tried an AMD chip with any version of unix, but I've >found them a total dog with WinNT & Win2000 so I'm not inclined to waste >time with them. From postings I've seen to this list it appears that many >users wish to dual boot FreeBSD & Windows. From my experience with a fair >cross-section of machines running virtually every version of Windows, I >wouldn't wish an AMD on my worst enemy ... the weird "features" they give, >particularly with WinNT & Win2000 are just not worth the dollars saved. >Intel Pentiums are probably overpriced by comparison, but Celerons aren't >that much more expensive than comparable AMD's & they work properly (and >consistently) with every operating system known to mankind. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "hawk" <cyberhawk@home.com> >To: "faisal" <fasi74@yahoo.com> >Cc: "freebad" <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> >Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:53 AM >Subject: Re: AMD Duron > > >> Ok in my psuedo-expert opinion AMD works better with UNIX in general. >> Why, i dont know why it just does. (Perhaps Intel is based for Windows, >and >> AMD >> isnt, but thats just speculation =) Anyays AMD is better for me. Better >for >> the >> servers i run, better for the lab i run. =) hope that answers it. >> >> Also look out for the new AMD chip, something like 5ghz with no fan 4 >floating >> >> points. (i know i thought the 5ghz was a typo too ;) something like $700 >> each. Ok i forgot what i was saying.. best to shut up now ;) >> >> -Hawk >> >> >> faisal wrote: >> >> > Hello i am going to upgrade to AMD Duron 650 in this good with freebsd >??? >> > I can also go for intell pentium III 600 mhz >> > so help me out here >> > AMD is good for me regarding cost so...........??? >> > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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