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Date:      Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:53:58 -0500 (EST)
From:      Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>
To:        shimon@simon-shapiro.org
Cc:        matth@uk.aiesec.org, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SCP/FTP Performance
Message-ID:  <13914.54304.379294.304492@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.981124113018.shimon@simon-shapiro.org>
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.981124141223.20817A-100000@blue.bad.bris.ac.uk> <XFMail.981124113018.shimon@simon-shapiro.org>

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Simon Shapiro writes:
 > 
 > Matt Hamilton, On 24-Nov-98 you wrote:
 > >  On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote:
 > >  
 > > > I know I am missing something here, but it appears Alpha based.
 > >  
 > >  Not that I know a huge amount about this, but could it be some
 > >  byte-order
 > >  related problem?  Something to do with switching the byte order around
 > >  un-necessarily, before sticking on the wire?  Or switching it wrongly
 > >  when
 > >  it gets back?
 > 
 > I doubt that;  First, it may add as much as 1% on an alpha.  Second, the
 > alpha is already in network order.
 > 
 > Simon

Actually, its not in network byte order, but as you state, that's of
little consequence.  The alpha byte-swapping & checksum code could
probably use a little work, but you're not going to notice much impact 
with 433+ Mhz Mhz 21164a's at speeds as slow as 100Mb.

My suspicion is that its the fault of the 433au's tulip interface.
The if_de.c driver support for DEC-branded 21143's, such as the one in
your 433au, is bad. For example, I cannot get my personal workstations
go into full-duplex mode in either FreeBSD or NetBSD.  

Your 64kb/sec speeds are typical of a duplex mismatch.  With the
433au's tulip set to autosense, I suspect the duplex modes might be
waffling between full & half.  You might try hardcoding the alphas
nics to 100baseTX.

Cheers,

Drew


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