Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2021 17:37:57 +0900 From: aventador@fastmail.fm To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deprecating base system ftpd? Message-ID: <3be2b1b4-dbcc-4429-ad31-f56246ae9a30@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAD=vH50r%2BprbhMg=5AeZZGyOuC2Jd8bdZ7YbLopBnr8jpkc6Yg@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAPyFy2AbP2X339zbemZ9Y8edjNKdyygnR9mH48Q78nxwDtOBAg@mail.gmail.com> <6051E091-200B-4A7F-9A53-86652425BBB6@punkt.de> <22c50a6-7c2c-3fc0-bd5f-42a0ba624c3@io-tx.com> <CAD=vH50r%2BprbhMg=5AeZZGyOuC2Jd8bdZ7YbLopBnr8jpkc6Yg@mail.gmail.com>
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Deprecating base system ftpd does seem to be a good idea, especially for FreeBSD users wanting to use their computer as a workstation/desktop instead of as a server. I think the argument becomes, "who is our target audience?" If the target audience is both server and desktop users, then minimizing the base system makes a lot of sense. FreeBSD is not just for servers anymore. Best Regards, Vic Thacker On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, at 17:21, Gerald de la Pascua wrote: > +1 again from me too, keep it, > > It seems a pointless change of something that it seems a reasonable number > of people are still using, even if there are better tools now, > > G > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 8:16 PM Ted Hatfield <ted@io-tx.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > >> Am 03.04.2021 um 22:39 schrieb Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>: > > >> I'm happy to make a port for it if anyone needs it. Comments? > > > > > > A bit late to the party, but my take is: please just don't. > > > > > > I absolutely freaked out when Apple removed the telnet and ftp clients > > > from Mac OS and I needed to reinstall them via MacPorts. > > > > > > People who manage any larger collection of networking gear *depend* > > > on these outdated but simple services. Client and server side alike. > > > > > > TFTP is not going away, neither is FTP. I'm dead serious. Remote media > > > via Supermicro IPMI in 2021? SMB1. Firmware updates for my UPS? FTP. > > > Scanner/printer/fax all-in-one thingy? Uploads received fax transmissions > > > via FTP. PBX? Uploads usage reports via FTP. This stuff is here to stay. > > > In local networks, of course. > > > > > > But still even on "the Internet", FTP is the most used method for > > customers > > > of static website hosting. You cannot teach these people what an SSH key > > is. > > > Just my experience, but backed by a load of customer interactions over > > more > > > than 20 years ... > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > Patrick > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Hear! Hear! > > > > Although I don't have any statistics to back this up this > > has been my experience as well. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Ted Hatfield > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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