Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 07:41:44 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org> To: dan_partelly <dan_partelly@rdsor.ro> Cc: Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>, lev@FreeBSD.org, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>, Sean Fagan <sef@ixsystems.com>, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <571643A8.9020702@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <78fb431d2d9b568fd488fae51a1b5f23@rdsor.ro> References: <20160302235429.GD75641@FreeBSD.org> <57152CE5.5050500@FreeBSD.org> <9D4B9C8B-41D7-42BC-B436-D23EFFF60261@ixsystems.com> <20160418191425.GW1554@FreeBSD.org> <571533B8.6090109@freebsd.org> <20160418194010.GX1554@FreeBSD.org> <57153E80.4080800@FreeBSD.org> <571551AB.4070203@freebsd.org> <5715E1E9.8060507@freebsd.org> <57164068.8080800@freebsd.org> <78fb431d2d9b568fd488fae51a1b5f23@rdsor.ro>
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On 4/19/16 7:39 AM, dan_partelly wrote: >> What should not happen is that this incremental step forward be blocked >> by those unwilling to hash out the next steps. >> >> -Alfred >> >> > While incremental steps forward are great, how do you avoid situations > like VNET, where a "good enough" enough implementation, usable in some > scenarios lingered for years in kernel, but to this day it suffers from > leaks and bugs. Once you go down the path of enabling it in this state, > chances are that it will stay that way for more than half a decade. > > > > > We happened to use VNET at our last company with great success. Had it not existed we would have been much further away from our goals. Maybe you picked a bad example? :) Look, take a look at history and the Linux kernel threads story and its impact on FreeBSD. If you'd like I can talk about it. -Alfred
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